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2007-07-18 Fifth Column

CIA leaders helped EU report in order to fight Rumsfeld

Swiss Senator Dick Marty, author of a Council of Europe report on CIA jails, says dissident United States intelligence officers angry with former defence secretary Donald Rumsfeld helped a European probe uncover details of secret CIA prisons in Europe.

Swiss Senator Marty said senior CIA officials disapproved of Rumsfeld's methods in hunting down terrorist suspects, and had agreed to talk to him

The senator said senior CIA officials disapproved of Rumsfeld's methods in hunting down terrorist suspects, and had agreed to talk to him on condition of anonymity. "There were huge conflicts between the CIA and Rumsfeld. Many leading figures in the CIA did not accept these methods at all," Marty told European Parliament committees, defending his work against complaints it was based on unnamed sources.

The report issued last month said the Central Intelligence Agency ran secret jails in Poland and Romania, with the complicity of those governments, and transported terrorist suspects across Europe in secret flights. Poland and Romania have repeatedly denied hosting CIA prisons on their soil.

"People in the CIA felt these things were not consonant with the sort of intelligence work they normally do," said Marty.

Yes, we noticed. Pity we needed a parallel structure to accomplish anything.

Natural result of the transformation of the CIA: they used to hire the best and brightest from Ivy League schools, who were establishment and conservative. Now they hire the best and brightest from Ivy League schools, who are leftist-establishment and progressive. The result was not in doubt.

He said he had based his findings largely on conversations with "high officials of the CIA (and) highly placed European office-holders, who for different reasons, often honourable reasons, were ready to explain what had happened".

And none of whom can be named, of course.

"The Americans themselves admitted there were secret prisons, that they abducted people from the streets, that people were handed over to countries like Syria, Yemen, Egypt where they were tortured," he said.

US President George W Bush acknowledged last year that the CIA had held top al-Qaeda suspects in secret overseas detention centres but did not say in which countries. "The president of United States made a very important statement. I think we can all expect... in the near future further admissions," said Marty.

Banking on a Democrat in the White House soon, are you?

Or yet another Congressional hearing.

He also said he would not remove the names of former Polish and Romanian government officials from the report, although they threatened on Tuesday to take legal action against the senator.

The report said former Polish national security adviser Marek Siwiec and former Romanian Defence Minister Ioan Pascu knew their countries had hosted secret CIA detention centres. "I have no reason to withdraw his name. I would certainly not be prepared to apologise. He knew exactly what was happening as did his president," Marty told a news conference, referring to Siwiec and former Polish President Aleksander Kwasniewski. "I am not shaking in my shoes," he said of the libel suit that Siwiec vowed to launch in a Polish court unless Marty removed his name from the report within seven days.

Pascu challenged Marty in the hearing to substantiate his allegations or withdraw them, but the Swiss legislator did not respond directly.

Of course not. Doesn't need to in order to damage their work.

Done in the best Seymour Hersh tradition.

Posted by lotp 2007-07-18 00:00|| || Front Page|| [11136 views ] Top
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#1 Hang them.

Posted by Excalibur 2007-07-18 10:03|| 2007-07-18 10:03|| Front Page Top

#2 Find them, fire them, try them, and hang them.

Posted by Cyber Sarge 2007-07-18 10:15|| 2007-07-18 10:15|| Front Page Top

#3 This shit has gone far enough ! First, defund the CIA, next, inform each overt CIA person that they will pass a lie detector in order to receive any retirement benefits. Once we have an outline of who 'leaks' politically convenient info to the MSM, we start digging in earnest and stand the guilty before the firing squad. Anyone who decides to take the fifth amendment, Gitmo awaits.
If innocent, they have nothing to fear, but if they are or were playing politics fast and loose, make an example of them.

My exit question is;
Can anyone tell me one GOOD reason for an intelligence agent to undermine his president, and his country ?

Posted by wxjames 2007-07-18 10:57|| 2007-07-18 10:57|| Front Page Top

#4 Russian Military Intelligence, which used to be called the GRU, would show its operatives videos of GRU men who had betrayed the organization. These videos showed them tied to stretchers, fully awake and alert, being shoved head first into a large incinerator.

Posted by Anonymoose 2007-07-18 11:13|| 2007-07-18 11:13|| Front Page Top

#5 Damn that sounds painful.

Posted by JohnQC 2007-07-18 12:03|| 2007-07-18 12:03|| Front Page Top

#6 Ouch and ouch!

Posted by JohnQC 2007-07-18 12:05|| 2007-07-18 12:05|| Front Page Top

#7 Dante put those who betray their benefactors in the lowest circle of hell....

Posted by Mark E. 2007-07-18 12:14|| 2007-07-18 12:14|| Front Page Top

#8 Can anyone tell me one GOOD reason for an intelligence agent to undermine his president, and his country ?

I can give you 3 reasons (none good but rational):

1. He/she is a partisan democrat (this has already been shown to be true)
2. They are on the payroll of the NYTs and WaPo and New Yorker
3. They hate Bush.

Its all about Bush.

Posted by Jack is Back!">Jack is Back! 2007-07-18 12:37|| 2007-07-18 12:37|| Front Page Top

#9 If that's their reasons then they have earned a trip to the wall blindfolded.
It certainly is an insult to us taxpayers to pay them and allow them to retire to Pleasantville for a job well done.
Kill them.

Posted by wxjames 2007-07-18 16:32|| 2007-07-18 16:32|| Front Page Top

#10 How many years have I been telling the Burg about this stupid "Old Boys" network in the CIA that is responsible for failures - and yet manages o use the press and leaks to shift the blame? Now its coming to light. Now you see how 9/11 happened (Tenet's buckpassing moron club), and why the intel system is so damn disfunctional (so risk averse they called off ops that may have prevented other casualty events)- a good chunk of the IC is LYING to the command authority to protect their ass or else for political gain.

Bastards. They should not be shot, they should be bayoneted.

Posted by OldSpook 2007-07-18 18:25|| 2007-07-18 18:25|| Front Page Top

#11 Yup. OS has lots of told-you-so chits built up. I suspect the upshot of this will be that in a few years the Director of Central Intelligence will be renamed Director of Open Source Intelligence as the CIA is walled off from classified information. Then it might be spun out and sold to the Brookings Institution.

Posted by Nimble Spemble 2007-07-18 19:23|| 2007-07-18 19:23|| Front Page Top

#12 As a lurking, low-functioning DON drone, I have to say that it was perfectly evident to me 6 years ago, that the CIA had become radically politicized; most likely at the -15/SES level. This is untenable and totally demoralizing. These money-grubbing, ego-tripping traitors need to be taken out very unceremoniously. I'd love to support that "effort"...

PS: "BREACH" (FBI, not CIA) is a DVD that deals with FED ego issues like nothing I'd seen before. I was surprised to learn that I wanted to watch it multiple times. That's SO not like me.

Posted by Asymmetrical T">Asymmetrical T 2007-07-18 21:00|| 2007-07-18 21:00|| Front Page Top

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