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2006-07-01 Arabia
Free Saudi Gitmo cons, ambassador sez
AELLBERG, Sweden - Saudi Arabia’s ambassador to the United States said on Friday Saudi citizens detained at the Guantanamo Bay detention centre should be allowed to return to their homeland to face trial there. Attending a conference on globalisation, Prince Turki Al Faisal said Saudis incarcerated in the centre for suspected links to terrorist organisations should be delivered to Saudi Arabia. “If there are any crimes that they have committed they will be tried in Saudi courts and face punishment for those crimes,” he told AFP.
Somehow I just can't quite bring myself to trust him. Don't know why ...
Prince Turki Al Faisal said it was against human rights to indefinitely incarcerate people without charging them. “Choosing the easier path of simply excluding whoever it is from society and from considerations of human rights and civil liberties would be inimical to the practice of human rights and civil liberties,” he said.
And if you can't trust a Saooodi on human rights, who can you trust?
Posted by Steve White 2006-07-01 00:00|| || Front Page|| [11132 views since 2007-05-07]  Top

#1 Since the only thing they did "wrong" was to wage war on infidels, I can't seem them getting anything more than a suspended sentence or perhaps one lash in Saudi Arabia. That assumes that they aren't granted amnesty outright.

Sorry, but the Geneva Convention says we can hold them until the end of hostilities. Since the hostilities are likely to go on for many, many years, we can't let them go soon. We would like to try them with military tribunals, but our Supreme Court says we can't. So we will have to wait until Congress passes a new law, and the Supreme Court rules on that before we can have trials. By the time all of this gets settled, the prisoners will probably die of old age.

Of course, the tribunals could hand down death sentences, as prescribed by the Geneva Conventions. But at least then the Saudi prisoners wouldn't have to endure the agony of not knowing their fates.
Posted by Rambler">Rambler  2006-07-01 00:45||   2006-07-01 00:45|| Front Page Top

#2 Ummm, I'm not up on law, but isn't there a statute against retroactive prosecution.

pass the law and they still can't be prosecuted.
Posted by Redneck Jim 2006-07-01 07:32||   2006-07-01 07:32|| Front Page Top

#3 Art I Sec 9 Cl 3 of the Constitution

No Bill of Attainder or ex post facto Law shall be passed.
Posted by Nimble Spemble 2006-07-01 08:18||   2006-07-01 08:18|| Front Page Top

#4 Considering Rambler's point, we might want Carla del Ponte to run the tribunals. She hates us, sure, and she'd want all these guys released, but it would take her years to get it done ...
Posted by Steve White">Steve White  2006-07-01 11:34||   2006-07-01 11:34|| Front Page Top

#5 #2 Ummm, I'm not up on law, but isn't there a statute against retroactive prosecution.

Doesn't apply if you're male and white [and gawd forbid if you are a registered Rep]. Double jeopardy, innocent till proven guilty, etc. Nope, nope, no longer applies.
Posted by Uninter Whereting4376 2006-07-01 12:40||   2006-07-01 12:40|| Front Page Top

#6 Yeah, they got OJ that way, keep trying him, just slightly change the wording.

I think he's guilty, but the first trial and aquittal should have been the last we ever heard of it, not change courts and try again.
Posted by Redneck Jim 2006-07-01 13:05||   2006-07-01 13:05|| Front Page Top

#7 They got OJ? In a criminal court? Damn, when was this?
Posted by 6 2006-07-01 19:26||   2006-07-01 19:26|| Front Page Top

#8 Saudi Arabia’s ambassador to the United States said on Friday Saudi citizens detained at the Guantanamo Bay detention centre should be allowed to return to their homeland to face trial there.

Sorry, but Human Rights Watch won't let us. Something about them probably being tortured (for screwing up and getting captured) on their return to Soddy Arabia.

Can't hand 'em back, can't try 'em, can't hold 'em.

Should just hang 'em and get it over with.
Posted by Robert Crawford">Robert Crawford  2006-07-01 23:11|| http://www.kloognome.com/]">[http://www.kloognome.com/]  2006-07-01 23:11|| Front Page Top

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