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2023-04-07 -Short Attention Span Theater-
Elite troops died being sucked out of planes. Critics blame their parachutes.
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Posted by Besoeker 2023-04-07 07:36|| || Front Page|| [15 views ]  Top

#1 So I have a couple questions. Where is the Airborne safety board on this? Second, removing the handle and cable was a good idea, so what did they design wrong, or is there really a problem here? The 82d uses these chutes, to the tune of a couple thousand jumpers a day. They dont have this issue. It seems, by the article that this is only happening to jumpmasters. What are the JSOC jumpmasters doing that is different from the 82d or the Rangers? If it truly is isolated to the JSOC teams, they need to look at the processes for the teams exiting, look for a change in process or a change to the JSOC equipment, not the entire airborne community. To say thats not fair, almost all of the JSOC equipment from uniforms to weapons to vehicles are all modified for specific operations, not standard issue.
Posted by 49 Pan 2023-04-07 11:02||   2023-04-07 11:02|| Front Page Top

#2 JSOC jumpmasters doing that is different from the 82d or the Rangers

Nothing different, except sticking their heads out the door to check for wire, hazards and such at the drop zone. That is where they get their blast of wind from. The other troops get their blast as they exit the aircraft and the chute is gonna open then anyway.

You are also trained to cover the reserve when you jump so if things go south you get it deployed quickly. This may be enough to keep it from springing early while the jumpmasters have to hold onto the door if they don't want to have an unplanned exit and that may expose the reserve pull.
Posted by DarthVader 2023-04-07 13:47||   2023-04-07 13:47|| Front Page Top

#3 Darth, I'm asking what the JSOC jumpmasters do different from the 82d or Ranger jumpmasters. Sorry for the confusion.
Posted by 49 Pan 2023-04-07 14:07||   2023-04-07 14:07|| Front Page Top

#4 1990'ish Ft. Bragg
A Rigger was caught deliberately packing chutes to fail.

Col. Richard J. Malvesti on July 26, 1990 officer died when his parachute malfunctioned in a night jump at Fort Bragg's Holland Drop Zone.

His wife died just a few days ago.
Posted by NN2N1 2023-04-07 15:31||   2023-04-07 15:31|| Front Page Top

#5 That also happened in the early 80's, 83 I think. The div commander made the riggers jump every chute they packed. Found the guy quickly. For a short period of time riggers lost their red caps and were not welcome at the nco clubs...
Posted by 49 Pan 2023-04-07 16:02||   2023-04-07 16:02|| Front Page Top

#6 @#1: When fragging isn't an option?
Posted by Anomalous Sources 2023-04-07 18:42||   2023-04-07 18:42|| Front Page Top

#7 Elite US soldiers died after being sucked out of planes when their parachutes malfunctioned and deployed INSIDE the crafts during strong winds
Posted by Skidmark 2023-04-07 19:44||   2023-04-07 19:44|| Front Page Top

#8 @#4: Has the FAR requiring riggers to (randomly) employ their work product been rescinded?
Posted by Anomalous Sources 2023-04-07 21:35||   2023-04-07 21:35|| Front Page Top

#9 @#&: Thereby revealing the actuation process of (some) 'chutes?

"We don't need no stinkin' D-ring!"
Posted by Anomalous Sources 2023-04-07 21:37||   2023-04-07 21:37|| Front Page Top

#10 The FAR does not apply. But, it is required for riggers to jump their own chutes at times.
Posted by 49 Pan 2023-04-07 22:05||   2023-04-07 22:05|| Front Page Top

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