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2022-07-15 Caucasus/Russia/Central Asia

The coming division of Ukraine: on historical precedents

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Posted by badanov 2022-07-15 00:00|| || Front Page|| [9 views ] Top

#1 Thanks, badanov. So the Russian author of this piece implies "its okay because everyone else is doing it!"

Posted by magpie 2022-07-15 09:47|| 2022-07-15 09:47|| Front Page Top

#2 Some people seem to think that this kind of thing cannot happen in the 21st century. But those borders have been shifting back and forth for over a thousand years and there really is nothing special about the 21st century. If Ukrainians, Poles and Russians hate each other so much that they really cannot get along it might be better to let them separate after the borders have been peacefully negotiated so as to avoid bloodshed. Plebiscites might be appropriate to help determine where the people who live in a region want those borders to be instead of having it imposed on them by politicians and generals. Well, I can dream can't I?

Posted by Abu Uluque 2022-07-15 12:09|| 2022-07-15 12:09|| Front Page Top

#3 I say we give Ukraine east of the Dnipro river to the Russians and the western part to Poland. The Russians will be happy with their new defensible border and the Poles cannot *bleep* things up worse than the Ukrainians have. It's a win-win!

Posted by SteveS 2022-07-15 17:37|| 2022-07-15 17:37|| Front Page Top

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