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2022-03-29 Government Corruption

Pentagon seeks to scrap 24 problematic Littoral ships in 2023

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Posted by Besoeker 2022-03-29 09:40|| || Front Page|| [10 views ] Top

#1 well, once they fix the population system, they can get around to the propulsion system. Nice reporting.

Posted by Frank G 2022-03-29 10:27|| 2022-03-29 10:27|| Front Page Top

#2 Exactly how does one in any government position get fired?

Posted by Chris 2022-03-29 10:41|| 2022-03-29 10:41|| Front Page Top

#3 These ships were built and are being replaced almost entirely in order to maintain some domestic shipbuilding capability. (Oh, and to distribute cash to friends.) It never mattered if they were problematic.

Posted by Glenmore 2022-03-29 10:57|| 2022-03-29 10:57|| Front Page Top

#4 They actually might fit the Coast Guard counterdug mission as airborne platforms for a more robust littoral surveillance and response task force farther off-shore than current land based systems. Such a task force could be formed with the new 110's and give them the aviation and drone coverage area breadth/reaction speed they sorely lack. Just spit-balling but they are new 4-spot flight decks.

Posted by NoMoreBS 2022-03-29 11:47|| 2022-03-29 11:47|| Front Page Top

#5 ...There's some talk about taking the new-build ones that have the glitches fixed/alleviated and making them dedicated anti-sub ships - they're surprisingly well suited for the job, (especially the new-build Independences) but the bad name the project has earned may doom that idea.

And BTW, the USCG runs from the idea of getting them like the Devil from Holy Water.

Mike

Posted by Mike Kozlowski 2022-03-29 12:08|| 2022-03-29 12:08|| Front Page Top

#6 They are the naval equivalent to the Aztek.

Posted by Super Hose 2022-03-29 13:03|| 2022-03-29 13:03|| Front Page Top

#7 Naval equivalent to the Sgt. York system.

Posted by DarthVader 2022-03-29 13:41|| 2022-03-29 13:41|| Front Page Top

#8 The Pentagon was planning to buy six additional Freedom-class LCSs. It is unclear if the projects will be terminated.
Wait - so they are going to buy six more very expensive ships and then immediately retire them?
There you have it folks! Modern Procurement in action.

Posted by CrazyFool 2022-03-29 13:59|| 2022-03-29 13:59|| Front Page Top

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#8 The Pentagon was planning to buy six additional Freedom-class LCSs. It is unclear if the projects will be terminated.
Wait - so they are going to buy six more very expensive ships and then immediately retire them?
There you have it folks! Modern Procurement in action.
Posted by: CrazyFool 2022-03-29 13:59

...Since the 60s, every major defense contract has had a clause that essentially makes it cheaper to keep buying the contracted product rather than cancel the program. Whatever it costs to pick up completed new ships at the yard and tow them into mothballs, it'll cost a couple of orders of magnitude more to cancel the program where it sits.

Mike

Posted by Mike Kozlowski 2022-03-29 16:03|| 2022-03-29 16:03|| Front Page Top

#10 As I recall there was one, one defense contracting firm that manufactured deliverable M1 Abrahams tanks. If you close the line, like they did with the A-10, the institutional knowledge of the precise tooling, skilled workers and knowledge of procedures for assemble are lost. Reassembly isn't easy, cheap or fast, so there is a national value in keeping mininmal capability online.

Posted by NoMoreBS 2022-03-29 17:19|| 2022-03-29 17:19|| Front Page Top

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