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2010-11-28 Britain
Five Thousand Strong English Defence League Demonstration Against Sharia in Preston
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Posted by tipper 2010-11-28 00:30|| || Front Page|| [5 views ]  Top

#1 good on them

best thing is they are getting smart and they turned on the agent provocateurs who tried to start violence

this is dirty tricks of the sort that can be used very effectively to trash the organisation

the elites will be trying hard especially the left to paint them as violent racist thugs and neo-Nazis, fascist to the core.

It is SO important that these guys be moderate, family-friendly and stress they are not racist, they do not care what colour you are, but they are firmly and proudly against the introduction of Sharia Law in the UK on the basis that it undermines the important principles of the separation of Church (mosque) and state, freedom of speech and equality of all before the law.

They must also stress at all opportunities they are non-violent and use only the power of persuasion to campaign for legal protection from Sharia

then they will win. Just imagine 100,000 marching... then a million. excellent.

it is important they win not just for themselves but for those fleeing the persecution of Islamists overseas, including moderate muslims who want to live in a secular society where the edicts of holy men are not legally binding but are matters only for private, voluntary, observance - this would be another good point they can make to diffuse the inevitable allegations of racism

because their enemies - both Islamists and Lefty elites - will be doing their best to trash them, using all the dirty tricks to hand

including pretending to be supporters then smashing shop windows and starting fights

or falsely accusing organisers of misbehaviour/racism/violence/sexual misconduct

and if they succeed the movement will be marginalised and will push decision makers in the opposite direction.
Posted by anon1 2010-11-28 00:47||   2010-11-28 00:47|| Front Page Top

#2 So IOW EDL didn't look like the jerks. Future rallys will hopefully include publicity t shirts with fun slogans like ....I survived the anti sharia party 2010.
Posted by Fire and ice 2010-11-28 01:11||   2010-11-28 01:11|| Front Page Top

#3 A good bet would be for them to have an internal plainclothes security force, trained to do several things.

First off, if there are counter protesters, everybody knows that these guys move to the front, because they know how to defend themselves, and won't let an agent provocateur create a "police riot" excuse.

Second, if they see anyone on their side committing crimes, to detain and hold them for police, after photographing them. And it would be positively grand if they could trick them into holding something, so the EDL would have their fingerprints on file along with their picture. (The police do this trick a lot.)

Third, they provide general counterintelligence at official meetings, small unofficial group meetings, and other places where agents, police, extremists, and kooks would try to insert themselves. They photograph the heck out of suspects, as well as audio record them and who they talk to. That is, they don't have to work alone, so this should be taken into account.
Posted by  Anonymoose 2010-11-28 08:37||   2010-11-28 08:37|| Front Page Top

#4 Leftist socialist organizations seem very vunerable to their own tactics.

Personally I wouldn't want to get in the way of several thousand marching Englishmen.
There's many reasons they ruled the world for many years.
Posted by Mikey Hunt 2010-11-28 14:33||   2010-11-28 14:33|| Front Page Top

#5 Past tense, Mikey. Past tense.
Posted by Canuckistan sniper 2010-11-28 18:20||   2010-11-28 18:20|| Front Page Top

#6 Get back in your effing hole sniper.
Posted by Dave UK 2010-11-28 21:27||   2010-11-28 21:27|| Front Page Top

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