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2010-07-17 Home Front: Politix

ACLU Travel Alert for the State of Arizona - includes "Bust Card" to assist illegal aliens

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Posted by gorb 2010-07-17 03:47|| || Front Page|| [1 views ] Top

#1 Attention whoring. That they called it a "racial profiling" law shows that their information is not directed to illegals, but to agitators.

Amusingly, the advice they give is standard to anyone stopped by the police. However, it is out of date, based on subsequent legal decisions.

When "rules" are established, the police automatically look for ways to obey the rules and still do their job. So they come up with all sorts of "tricks" that eventually have to be adjudicated as to whether they are proper or not.

For instance, when someone asks "Am I being detained?", they don't answer "yes" or "no", but "we'll see" or "maybe, based on your answers".

And your ability to *not* answer questions is inhibited if they have not arrested you. Just because information may not be admissible against you, because you have not been read your rights, it may be very admissible against the person sitting next to you.

There has even been a major court case in which someone gave incriminating evidence during arrest, so it was not admissible, but the police released him from arrest, then used the information to get incriminating evidence, then rearrested him. Since he was not under arrest when they used his information, it was admissible.

Posted by Anonymoose 2010-07-17 11:14|| 2010-07-17 11:14|| Front Page Top

#2 The Supreme Court has already ruled in Muehler, Darin v. Mena, Iris (03/22/2005).

The Court also concluded that the questioning of Mena about her immigration status also did not violate her 4th Amendment rights.

Posted by Procopius2k 2010-07-17 13:17|| 2010-07-17 13:17|| Front Page Top

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