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2009-09-16 Great White North

Canada reiterates will not extend Afghan mission

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Posted by ed 2009-09-16 09:02|| || Front Page|| [6 views ] Top

#1 Fucking moochers.

Posted by Woozle Uneter9007 2009-09-16 10:19|| 2009-09-16 10:19|| Front Page Top

#2 It wasn't 3000 Canadians that were murdered. What are Americans willing to do to force an end to islamic colonization and conquest?

Posted by ed 2009-09-16 10:38|| 2009-09-16 10:38|| Front Page Top

#3 Thanks to the Canadian troops that fought there with us. They did an outstanding job. Let's never forget that part.

As for the politics of the rest of the story, Canadian politicians have always been cowards to the polls.

Posted by 49 Pan 2009-09-16 10:43|| 2009-09-16 10:43|| Front Page Top

#4 Total Canadian Forces, air, land, and sea only total around 66,000. The Canadian Forces, Land have about 19,500 active duty and 16,000 reserve members. The Brigade in Afghanistan amounts to the almost entire deployable strength of the Canadian Forces Land. In the massive drawdowns in the CF during the last 20 years, much of the logistics support elements went away. The deployment to Afghanistan has been an eye-opening experience for the Canadians, but the forces are wearing out and need to come home to rest and refit. Currently, if you are in the CF land forces you can count on spending every other year in Afghanistan. All in all, this has been a major effort by the Canadians and we should thank them for their support.

As an aside, more Canadians enlisted in the US forces to fight in VietNam than American draft dodgers were granted asylum. Canadians are good people with feckless politicians.

Posted by rwv 2009-09-16 11:43|| 2009-09-16 11:43|| Front Page Top

#5 #1. As of today 130 Canadian soldiers have died in Afghanistan. I don't call that mooching.

Why don't you get off your fat butt and go over there and actually DO something to help the situation? It would be more productive of you to be shooting a rifle there rather than shooting off your mouth while sitting at the computer in your mother's basement.

Thanks to the other commenters for your kind and thoughtful words. I'll be forwarding the Rantburg link to this article on to my old friends in the Canadian Forces, some of whom are over there. They will, no doubt, be interested in the comments.

Posted by Canuckistan sniper 2009-09-16 12:24|| 2009-09-16 12:24|| Front Page Top

#6 Canada has been free-loading in the area of defense for most of its history. I doubt they would be in Afghanistan now if it weren't for NATO (which is a whole other rant I'll save for another day, but IMO it has made the West weaker).

Blame it all on Canada's poor political leadership? Sure, one could rationalize it that way. The fact remains they have, for all intents and purposes, disarmed and are quite content to leave their freedom in the hands of others to pay and die for. They (and most of Europe) surely realize that an alliance with the U.S. will protect their sorry asses regardless of the folly of their politicians' decisions.

The only way I'll amend my previous statement is to say they are fucking moochers AND cowards. They CHOSE to become a welfare state.

Posted by Woozle Uneter9007 2009-09-16 13:31|| 2009-09-16 13:31|| Front Page Top

#7 Incidentally, you can add 27 Canadians to the 3000 murdered in the 911 attacks.

Canada is only in Afghanistan because the former Liberal government decided our contribution to the War on Terror was to fight anywhere but Iraq. So they sent the troops to Kandahar. No preparation, no support, and no equipment. We have lost 130 brave soldiers.

I will be joining my fellow Canadians on the Highway of Heroes (401) overpass later this afternoon to honour the 130th, Private Patrick Lormand

Posted by Skunky Glins****">Skunky Glins**** 2009-09-16 13:40|| 2009-09-16 13:40|| Front Page Top

#8 Fighting words Woozle.

You might care to share that with the memory of the 3600 Canadians that lost their lives at Vimy Ridge in 1917.

It might help explain why Canada had the fourth largest Navy and third largest Air Force in the world in 1945.

To say nothing of the Korean War.

Albeit Canada's global position in Cold War as the buffer between the US and Russian allowed progressive liberals to reduce our fighting forces to not much more than a parade show.(No more than one parade at a time, please.)

But if you are looking for a fight, stay away from the Canadians.

Posted by Skunky Glins****">Skunky Glins**** 2009-09-16 14:02|| 2009-09-16 14:02|| Front Page Top

#9 Canada has always been a stalwart supporter of the United States. We need to be equally supportive of them, as they've given far more than most others, including 130 dead.

Canada is finding out the hard way that you indeed do "run out of other people's money" as their health care system is on the verge of collapse, their army has dwindled to less than two divisions, and their Air Force and Navy need major revamping. I've worked with Canadians in Germany - they're good people. They just have a government dominated by the fools in Quebec who still want to be a part of France.

Posted by Old Patriot">Old Patriot 2009-09-16 14:29|| http://oldpatriot.blogspot.com/]">[http://oldpatriot.blogspot.com/] 2009-09-16 14:29|| Front Page Top

#10 Read "Clash of Arms" by Russell Hart if you want to inform yourself as to how poorly Canadians performed in WWII.

Posted by Woozle Uneter9007 2009-09-16 14:34|| 2009-09-16 14:34|| Front Page Top

#11 Woozle - I think you couldn't be more wrong

Posted by Frank G">Frank G 2009-09-16 18:49|| 2009-09-16 18:49|| Front Page Top

#12 Agreed, Frank, OP and others.

Moreover, the Canadians have indirectly contributed in other wasy to the recent conflicts, including through robotics work that has been integrated into some advanced unmanned ground robots.

But technology aside, the Canadian Forces I've met have been top rank.

Posted by lotp 2009-09-16 20:23|| 2009-09-16 20:23|| Front Page Top

#13 No worries, Frank. Canada will cut and run in the middle of a war in an effort at appeasement. Shouldn't surprise you. Hell, they may start a trend, with other 'allies' following in their footsteps. Wouldn't be the first time that we've been left to do the heavy lifting.

Maybe the pussies think that by withdrawing from the fight, their risks of being attacked will be reduced. I tend to disagree, as I simply see it as a victory for the terrorists.

And us dumbass Americans will continue to foot the bill to protect them and millions of other ungrateful dolts around the world.

So, fuck 'em. And fuck their nanny state.

Posted by Woozle Uneter9007 2009-09-16 20:23|| 2009-09-16 20:23|| Front Page Top

#14 Woozle, your reading comprehension seems to be slipping in this thead.

The Canadian Forces have been horribly underfunded, underequipped and undermanned. It will take time for them to fix that, and some debate among Canadians about how much to invest vs. other social needs. But in the meanwhile despite dismaying equipment shortages they have fought well, and hard, and with a large percent of the manpower they do have available.

I'm no fan of some aspects of Canada, including the tendency of some to a facile smug antiUS stance. But you miss the very real contribution and effort they've made.

Posted by lotp 2009-09-16 20:28|| 2009-09-16 20:28|| Front Page Top

#15 Woozle - I make my point that the Canucks have actually been committing and fighting ABOVE their weight, given the political climate (and internal oppo) and the sad contributions among our NATO allies, especially among combat ops.

Posted by Frank G">Frank G 2009-09-16 20:45|| 2009-09-16 20:45|| Front Page Top

#16 I welcome any and all Canuck participation, especially as it doesn't seem limited by internal politics to logistics. Our Moosehead-drinking friends are fighting and dying with us, and should be accorded as such, not criticized. Check the disposition of the rest of the NATO forces and how many are actually prohibited from combat? Thank you, Canada

Posted by Frank G">Frank G 2009-09-16 20:50|| 2009-09-16 20:50|| Front Page Top

#17 lotp, there's nothing wrong with my reading comprehension skills. I simply see it differently from some on this site. My mistake, but I thought all opinions were welcome, popular or not.

Canada pulls out and terror wins out. I hope they enjoy living under Sharia.

Posted by Woozle Uneter9007 2009-09-16 21:01|| 2009-09-16 21:01|| Front Page Top

#18 JAPAN is also repor considering the same.

Posted by JosephMendiola">JosephMendiola 2009-09-16 21:05|| na]">[na] 2009-09-16 21:05|| Front Page Top

#19 The war will be over with sometime in 2011, Joe. You didn't get the memo, either?

Posted by Woozle Uneter9007 2009-09-16 21:17|| 2009-09-16 21:17|| Front Page Top

#20 My mistake, but I thought all opinions were welcome, popular or not.

They are. You should also be prepared to defend them.

You did a piss-poor job of it.

Posted by Pappy 2009-09-16 21:30|| 2009-09-16 21:30|| Front Page Top

#21 A variety of opinions are indeed welcome at Rantburg, Woozle.

They are, of course, open to rigorous examination and debate.

Posted by lotp 2009-09-16 21:31|| 2009-09-16 21:31|| Front Page Top

#22 ah, I see Pappy preceeded me.

Posted by lotp 2009-09-16 21:31|| 2009-09-16 21:31|| Front Page Top

#23 They are. You should also be prepared to defend them.

Defend what? My initial comment was met with hysteria and needed no defending. Nothing I have offered has in any way denegrated or besmirched those soldiers serving ... be they Canadians or otherwise.

The fucking moochers aren't those serving, they're the parasites that have free-loaded off the American taxpayer for decades.

As for the comment regarding the performance during WWII, again, if you inform yourself, you'll see it wasn't a critique on those serving, but rather those politicians and cowards left to armchair quarterback from the comfort of safety.

You people need to get over yourselves and get off your high horses. We will be in Afghanistan for a very long time. Our military is severely stretched and, in many cases, underequipped, underfunded and undermanned. Should we, like the Canadians, cut and run as well?

Oh, poor things, they're tired, the war is unpopular, they've run out of resources. We should have a ticker-tape parade and celebrate them leaving I suppose, except our troops are still there and will still be there long after the Canadians have packed up and gone home, leaving us to do the hard work.

Posted by Woozle Uneter9007 2009-09-16 22:06|| 2009-09-16 22:06|| Front Page Top

#24 Woozle -- just what is your problem? Military folks don't have a lot of say in where they go, where they are, what they have, and what they can do with it.

I'm not sure I'm following your logic... other than.. Canada, big chickens, other countries, big chickens... and if I'm reading you right, USA the biggest chicken of them all!

Again, what's your problem and what is the point you are making?

Yep, I'm opening myself up to your vicious attack -- but that's okay -- I'm just a litl' old lady deep in the heart of Texas that has seen lots that life has offered.... and none of it, brings me to any comprehension of what your message really is.

Posted by Sherry">Sherry 2009-09-16 23:22|| 2009-09-16 23:22|| Front Page Top

#25 Hysterical much?

Posted by Woozle Uneter9007 2009-09-16 23:43|| 2009-09-16 23:43|| Front Page Top

#26 Woozle --- you did it again --- huh? I'm guessing your generation and mine have real communications problems. I was taught to write in complete sentences, how to diagram those sentences, and what a noun, pronoun, verb, adjective and adverb added to sentences. Yea, those adjestive and adverbs, spelling them, did give me some problems. But I could diagram sentences with the best of them.

Hysterical much? Not only can I not diagram that question (only know that it is a question, because you included the question mark) I have no reading comprehension of what you mean.

Guess it's that tweeting, blackberry language that has depleted your brain of how to speak and write in complete sentences, and using nouns, pronouns, verbs, adjectives and adverbs to get your message out to others.

I find it extremely frustrating when I spend the time to write a few words for comments, only to find, some don't have any idea what I meant, or totally didn't get my message, or just didn't understand what the point was that I was making.

Does that ever happen to you?

And, good night, cause our Boss Fred, who has graciously invited and allowed you to be here, is about to turn off the lights here, for this day.

Posted by Sherry">Sherry 2009-09-16 23:59|| 2009-09-16 23:59|| Front Page Top

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