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2008-12-05 Home Front: Culture Wars

At O'Reilly's Urging WA Governor's Phones Light Up Over Atheist Sign

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Posted by Fred 2008-12-05 00:00|| || Front Page|| [1 views ] Top

#1 Ya know what? Screw Bill O'Reilly. He has no core beliefs. The guy screwed us on immigration and has been nothing more than a raving self-aggrandizing egotist, and no friend of conservative causes unless they are convenient exaggerations with which he can rabble-rouse.

For instance, he has abandoning making any arguments on abortion unless the target of his argument makes it handy -- and he still tries to trade on being Catholic.

He's just another beltway media buttpirate.

Posted by OldSpook 2008-12-05 03:32|| 2008-12-05 03:32|| Front Page Top

#2 The atheists' sign was installed by Washington members of the Freedom From Religion Foundation, a national group based in Madison, Wis.

With a nod to the winter solstice - the year's shortest day occurring in late December - the placard reads: "At this season of the Winter Solstice may reason prevail. There are no gods, no devils, no angels, no heaven or hell. There is only our natural world. Religion is but myth and superstition that hardens hearts and enslaves minds."

Excuse me, but Freedom FROM religion is NOT in the Constitution.

These guys are the kinds who relish shitting in the punchbowl.

Posted by OldSpook 2008-12-05 03:34|| 2008-12-05 03:34|| Front Page Top

#3 Hit enter too soon.

THeir little statement is fine, up until the point where they state a very bigoted lie : hardens hearts and enslaves minds.

Oh really? Hard hearts, like the biggest charities in the world -- all religious. Enslaves minds -- like the many great thinkers who were also saints?

Bigoted Asses is what that group is, proving it by adding the last phrase. Its an ATTACK statement with that in it.

What about letting neo-nazis or the KKK putting up similar statements to that about Jews or Catholics? Will they let others put up a sign attacking Islam like that?

Its not the content - its the attack at the end that makes the billboard untenable as a matter of public space. If they want the KKK to put things up like that, they have just opened the door for them to do so.

Take it down, or force them to omit the slurs, slanders and attacks.

Posted by OldSpook 2008-12-05 03:41|| 2008-12-05 03:41|| Front Page Top

#4 #1 cause of violent death in the 20th century worldwide: atheist regimes.

Get back to me about "hard hards" and "enslaved minds".

Posted by no mo uro 2008-12-05 06:01|| 2008-12-05 06:01|| Front Page Top

#5 "hard hearts" PIMF

Posted by no mo uro 2008-12-05 06:02|| 2008-12-05 06:02|| Front Page Top

#6 The FFRF is in my neighborhood.

Their chief charities are lawsuits against anybody who puts up religious displays, and a financial fund to pay for abortions.

Posted by mom">mom 2008-12-05 09:36|| http://idontknowbut.blogspot.com]">[http://idontknowbut.blogspot.com] 2008-12-05 09:36|| Front Page Top

#7 "Financial fund"? Sorry about that.

Posted by mom">mom 2008-12-05 09:50|| http://idontknowbut.blogspot.com]">[http://idontknowbut.blogspot.com] 2008-12-05 09:50|| Front Page Top

#8 He should have done:
Called out all religious organizations to write the Governor's office, stating that they would be 'freeing minds' with a hard heart and withold ALL community assistance until further notice. To those seeking assistance, they would provide the address & a map of the Governor's office for where they should seek that assistance.

It's the overwhelming slam by the Washington government against religious organizations that's most outrageous here to me. Downright libelous.

Let the needy seek out that 'redistributed wealth' directly from the Governor and see what happens.

Posted by logi_cal 2008-12-05 10:20|| 2008-12-05 10:20|| Front Page Top

#9 O'Reilly might be a dick, but he knows bullshit when he sees it and isn't afraid to call it bullshit.
Other than that, I don't have much use for the guy.

Posted by bigjim-ky 2008-12-05 10:56|| 2008-12-05 10:56|| Front Page Top

#10 If you don't believe in God, then God bless you, we can't force it down your throat. All we ask is that you go to hell quietly and don't try to force you atheism down our throats.

Posted by Abu Uluque 2008-12-05 12:31|| 2008-12-05 12:31|| Front Page Top

#11 I'm kind of with bigjim on this one. O'Reilly is a blowhard with an ego to match but in most cases, he's not afraid to speak his mind, for better or worse, nor is he afraid to call a spade a spade, and that is a rarity of pre-historic proportions in the media today.

He's also not afraid to acknowledge that his style and manners turn people off, in other words that he is a dick, exactly like bigjim said. At least he points the muzzle of his rage, more often than not, at those who deserve it most. You can't say the same for many, if any, of his peers.

His efforts to protect the innocent, in particular his vendetta against child-sex offenders and those that sympathize with them, has resulted in real positive change. That in itself is admirable and worthy of some measure of respect.

Okay, that's enough defending of B. O'Reilly for one day. Perhaps for one year. The guy may be a jerk, although I don't know him personally, but he's the kind of jerk I'd rather have playing for my team instead of having to go up against him. He certainly seems tough, whether or not that's just a facade is open for debate.

Most of the time, I just wish he would shut up already.

Posted by eltoroverde 2008-12-05 12:38|| 2008-12-05 12:38|| Front Page Top

#12 Listening to local news radio this morning here in the Seattle area, I've heard the atheist display sign is now missing. They'll be bringing in troopers later today to investigate (obviously we have no more serious crimes that warrant attention).

Posted by Dar">Dar 2008-12-05 13:36|| 2008-12-05 13:36|| Front Page Top

#13 No Druid stuff? No Wiccan holiday wishes? What about the Church of Bob?
Inclusive, my ass.

Posted by tu3031 2008-12-05 13:38|| 2008-12-05 13:38|| Front Page Top

#14 Update: Looks like whoever swiped the sign dropped it off at a local radio station.

Posted by Dar">Dar 2008-12-05 13:55|| 2008-12-05 13:55|| Front Page Top

#15 The U.S. Supreme Court has been consistent and clear that, under the Constitution's First Amendment, once government admits one religious display or viewpoint onto public property, it may not discriminate against the content of other displays, including the viewpoints of nonbelievers.

Ok, per that idiot gov, the Muslims CAN put one up saying that Atheists are going to hell and should have their trhoats cut.

Posted by OldSpook 2008-12-05 19:59|| 2008-12-05 19:59|| Front Page Top

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