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2008-11-13 Caucasus/Russia/Central Asia

Russia: submarine tragedy caused by sailor

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Posted by anonymous5089 2008-11-13 06:57|| || Front Page|| [5 views ] Top

#1 what's the point of a fire system that kills the ppl running the boat especially if it is still underwater? Are the Russian sub crews volunteer like the US?

Posted by chris 2008-11-13 07:51|| 2008-11-13 07:51|| Front Page Top

#2 This fire-extinguishing system is designed to be used only when the compartments are unmanned and sealed off from the rest of the ship.

Posted by Parabellum 2008-11-13 08:49|| 2008-11-13 08:49|| Front Page Top

#3 Scapegoat, poor design, or poor training?

Posted by Spot">Spot 2008-11-13 09:42|| 2008-11-13 09:42|| Front Page Top

#4 Scapegoat, poor design, AND poor training?

Posted by mom">mom 2008-11-13 09:59|| http://idontknowbut.blogspot.com]">[http://idontknowbut.blogspot.com] 2008-11-13 09:59|| Front Page Top

#5 Vodka is not breakfast food.

Posted by g(r)omgoru 2008-11-13 10:00|| 2008-11-13 10:00|| Front Page Top

#6 Vodka: Not just for breakfast anymore!

Posted by Bobby 2008-11-13 12:30|| 2008-11-13 12:30|| Front Page Top

#7 Russian philosophy has always been: 1) control from the top; 2) trust the lower levels as little as possible; 3) automate (which backs up the top two assertions); 4) don't teach the lower ratings any more than you have to. Plus initial reports were that there were several riders along for the sea trials, also, that the dead were 2 sailors and 18 riders. The riders would have had no clue what to do in case of an emergency.

Posted by AlmostAnonymous5839">AlmostAnonymous5839 2008-11-13 14:15|| 2008-11-13 14:15|| Front Page Top

#8 Most modern systems have a switch one can hold to prevent the fire suppression gas from being released until everyone is out of the area. Either Russian systems don't have such a safety feature or it was disabled/overridden.

Posted by Phinetle Squank7785 2008-11-13 18:10|| 2008-11-13 18:10|| Front Page Top

#9 It appears that anything that could wrong aboard a submarine before and during a cruise DID > ABOUT THE ONLY THING MISSING IS THE NERPA LAUNCHING AND BEING KILLED BY ITS OWN TORPEDO/MISSLE!

OR WAS IT [theme from DRAGNET here]!?

Posted by JosephMendiola 2008-11-13 20:23|| 2008-11-13 20:23|| Front Page Top

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