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2008-09-24 Home Front: Politix

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Posted by Scooter McGruder 2008-09-24 15:50|| || Front Page|| [1 views ] Top

#1 My first gut feeling was this will hurt him, hope I'm wrong. I'm worried that it could be used against him by saying he cannot handle big pressures more then one at a time.

I am really interested in others opinions on this. Please try to be serious and not just spouting party points. Does anyone else think it could hurt his chances? Thanks.

Posted by Yosemite Sam 2008-09-24 16:41|| 2008-09-24 16:41|| Front Page Top

#2 I look for the MSM to play this up just as you posit YS, too much to handle at one time; but what would be really great would be to see JM take these couple of days off to work this, and then come back and smoke The One in the debate.

reading the article at the link it appears the MSM lost no time in putting the leftspin on it.

Posted by USN, Ret. 2008-09-24 16:49|| 2008-09-24 16:49|| Front Page Top

#3 I don't think it will hurt him with the 40-45% who had already decided to vote for him, Yosemite Sam, nor change many minds of the 40-45% who either were going to vote for Obama or sit out the election. One must ask whether Sarah Palin will go to Washington, too, where she has no official role, or continue on the campaign trail alone for the nonce, which would change the equation (alone she'll be viewed as a real underdog, and Americans like to root for underdogs). Personally, I'm glad that a man known for building compromises between the parties is going back to the Senate to work on a situation that has the entire financial world melting down -- I read about problems in Britain, France and China resulting from our little problem here. The question is whether the 10-20% of voters who haven't yet made up their minds will be happier to see a candidate respond to a problem, possibly as threatening as 9/11, that voters across the country have been screaming to their Congressmen about, or not.

/See? No party points at all. Because you're right, that would add nothing at all to the discussion.

Posted by trailing wife ">trailing wife 2008-09-24 16:56|| 2008-09-24 16:56|| Front Page Top

#4 Obama just responded: "Call me if you need me...I'm in the book"

Posted by Justrand 2008-09-24 17:02|| 2008-09-24 17:02|| Front Page Top

#5 Thanks TW. When folks present answers and insight like yours, it really helps me (and probably others) to see the trees for the forest - to come to a better conclusion then just reacting emotionally. :)

Posted by Yosemite Sam 2008-09-24 17:06|| 2008-09-24 17:06|| Front Page Top

#6 Hurt him? Not a chance.

Regardless bho's decision(let 'im go to Mzippi debate a coupla bitter clingers - better yet, bring Mrs. Palin to bear - pinch hit)Senator McCain should take to the floor of the Senate, throw reid/pelosi under the bus THEN extol the virtues of capitalism adding gub'mint needs to get out of the way.

Wall Street is a nest of democrats, the root cause of this crisis is democrats, over regulation and the change in accounting rules after Enron didn't help. Let the thousands of small prudent banks, small business folks and savers bail us out. Bring them/us cheap plentiful energy, suspend capital gains taxes and this shit storm will calm in short order. Perp walk a few democrat politicians, seize the assets of the hedge funds the clinton kid and biden's kid work for in an eliot(I love hookers)spitzer move just for the laughs.

Unfortunately he'd probably do what President Bush is most likely to do tonight - blame CEO compensation. It's about the only thing the ignorance of the American public will allow.

I'd be shocked if b. hussein obama agreed to that. The only elected official anywhere near DC when this hit was POTUS. The democrats where scrambling to start getting the disinformation out and republicans don't have the stomach for this kinda fight, never have. Did you hear one republican calling for criminal prosecutions of dodd or frank? The political criminal class is a different kind of animal.

Posted by Last Breath Farm Resident 2008-09-24 17:28|| 2008-09-24 17:28|| Front Page Top

#7 FWIW: Seattle Times.com sound off on this has the libs piling on, spouting the canned lines: too old, losing so gotta steal the headlines, blah, blah, blah. there are only about 3 or 4 comments in it that give JM any support.

Posted by USN, Ret. 2008-09-24 17:29|| 2008-09-24 17:29|| Front Page Top

#8 Early on in this campaign, Obama marketed himself as the great healer that would bring both sides together. This is a chance for him to act in place of pretty pretty words. Undecided independent attend.

Obama will not follow McCain's lead on this. Convinced of his own infallibility, he'll stand there alone* on that stage with his thumb and his backside, while McCain WORKS for the country in Washington.

*although the Palin gambit might prove even further enlightening for those still able to learn.

Posted by Minister of funny walks 2008-09-24 17:33|| 2008-09-24 17:33|| Front Page Top

#9 The media will spin it as a "campaign stunt."

Obama will use it as an "I really care about the American people, so I'm here to debate" photo op.

McCain is risking the election to try to save the country from a really bad version of The Great Depression.

Obama, as usual, is full of sh*t.

The media, as usual, is full of sh*t.

McCain is doing the only honorable thing, which is to work as a senior senator on the issue.

Obama, who is a junior junior junior senator, would rather try to feather his own nest, than worry about all of us.

Besides, he has the backing of rich middle-easterners and commies, so he doesn't have to worry.

Whether the PEOPLE will see past Obama and the ever-present media spin, is the question.

I don't know.

Posted by ex-lib 2008-09-24 18:52|| 2008-09-24 18:52|| Front Page Top

#10 http://market-ticker.denninger.net/archives/590-FLASH-Fed-Speaking-Out-Both-Sides-Of-Mouth.html

Posted by Bright Pebbles 2008-09-24 19:07|| 2008-09-24 19:07|| Front Page Top

#11 Someone's expecting a bit of "market" trouble later in the year.

http://www.armytimes.com/news/2008/09/army_homeland_090708w/

Posted by Bright Pebbles 2008-09-24 19:28|| 2008-09-24 19:28|| Front Page Top

#12 I don't have a clue how this is going to turn out for McCain. The media spin is going to do its best to make him look foolish and, like it or not, that is going to have an impact on people.

I just don't know what to make of this damn bailout. If we do nothing and the credit market seizes, we are all in the shit. If this is just a bandaid, then we are all going to be in the shit anyway, only a bit deeper.

I am of one mind on dealing with macro issues, again keeping the credit markets open and operating. I am, however, totally against any message/bailout that gives people the impression that they no longer have to pay their mortgage, car, student loan or credit card payments.

I have lost all confidence in Bush with regard to domestic policy. He is a big government, near socialist politician. Regardless of who was originally respnsible, he let this shit go down under his watch and did not make it a priority to stop it.

Yes, I've seen the proposed oversight legislation he proposed, but did he sell it? Did he get it done? Did he make it a priority and really take on the dems on the issue? No to all of the above. He screwed it and did not lead.

I admire much of what he's done on foriegn policy, but on the domestic stuff he has been a disaster and has ruined the Republican party through a complete lack of leadership (plenty of the repub guys in congress needed their asses kicked during his first term...he never vetoed a single bill).

I think we are going to get Obama. We are going to get what we deserve. It is going to be very ugly, but hopefully will only last 4 years.

Posted by remoteman 2008-09-24 20:01|| 2008-09-24 20:01|| Front Page Top

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