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2008-09-11 Home Front: Politix

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Posted by AzCat 2008-09-11 05:47|| || Front Page|| [9 views ] Top

#1 According to Barack Obama, the madness that drove terrorists to turn passenger jets into manned cruise missiles aimed at our centers of finance, government and military power "grows out of a climate of poverty and ignorance, helplessness and despair."

BULLSHIT! 17 of the 19 of these asshats were from Saudi Arabia and they came from a privileged background. It was religious muslim ideology, fervor, a desire to take over the world and re-make it in the mold of islam, and a hatred of freedom that drove these people.

Posted by JohnQC 2008-09-11 09:30|| 2008-09-11 09:30|| Front Page Top

#2 The liberals sooooo want this lie to be true. It allows them to feel good and give reason to expand their favorite pet projects.

Unfortunately, they are wrong on this like most aspects of the WOT.

Posted by DarthVader 2008-09-11 09:50|| 2008-09-11 09:50|| Front Page Top

#3 poverty and ignorance, helplessness and despair."

would anyone deny that they were ignorant?

And helplessness and despair are more than economic. I thought we went into Iraq, in part, because dictatorship breeds terrorism. It does so, because the society it creates is a failure as a society, and that failure leads to humiliation of those who identify with it, even if they personally have decent jobs. And the humiliated are a recruiting ground for terrorists. thats the point of Bernard Lewis' "What went wrong" and of much pre-2003 neocon discussion of Iraq and the GWOT.

Now the above may be wrong. But its hardly the "vulgar marxism" that Greenwald implies Obamas statement is.

Posted by liberalhawk 2008-09-11 10:54|| 2008-09-11 10:54|| Front Page Top

#4 would anyone deny that they were ignorant?

At least one of them had an engineeer degree.

And helplessness and despair are more than economic.

I agree. For instance when you consider yourself to be the master race/religion and denied your rightful place as herresnvolk due to a conspuiacy of Jews/Americans.

In case my transparent alliusions aren't transparent enough this is more or less what SS believed.

So, Obama, has been tried to justify SS-like people.

Posted by JFM">JFM 2008-09-11 11:27|| 2008-09-11 11:27|| Front Page Top

#5 would anyone deny that they were ignorant?

Wrong word, try "Brainwashed".

Posted by Redneck Jim">Redneck Jim 2008-09-11 12:45|| 2008-09-11 12:45|| Front Page Top

#6 So, Obama, has been tried to justify SS-like people

Shoud have read Obama has tried to justify SS-like people

Now, remind the "We should ask ourselves about Why they hate us?". Do you think that the people who told that idiocy would have accepted any other answer that "Baecause we are bad, bad, bad with them?"". Like "They hate us because they are bastards, bastards who think they are the master race".? Do you think any of them was indignant because Saudis, those saudis who a
mere ten yeas earlier were shaking at the knees
in front of Saddama and hiding behind American bayonets, after 9/11 beagan to wear Bin Laden T-shirts"?

I remind visting the blog of a Jewish, yes Jewish, American, female, yes female; pop singer and she told about telling to her msuicians after 9/11: "We should ask ourselves why they hate us?"
Had I had a chance of being read by her I would have told: "So the Jews, even the children, who were being gassed at Auschwitz should have twisted their hands, asked themselves Why the Nazis hate us and atoned about what they, children included, had done to the Nazis? Is that what you are saying? Couldn't thet thay hate us just be because likde the Nazis they are evil?"

And now I have heard many people tell the meme about empoverished and despaired Saudis becoming suicide bombres, but none of them was friend of teh United Sates and If I were Amaerican, even for purely egoistical reasons, the first quality I would care for a President is for him loving his country and willing teh best for it.

Posted by jfm">jfm 2008-09-11 15:01|| 2008-09-11 15:01|| Front Page Top

#7 would anyone deny that they were ignorant?

I would, they were well-informed and purposeful. Ignorant perhaps of the good America does in the world but that's obviously not what you're implying.

And helplessness and despair are more than economic.

A fact that right has always know but one to which the left has blinded itself post-JFK. Nice to see you coming around, bring a few of your fellow kooks with you would you please.

Posted by AzCat 2008-09-11 15:16|| 2008-09-11 15:16|| Front Page Top

#8 REDDIT > RUSSIA TODAY - seems SOUTH OSSETIA's President had inferred that the US-West promised to recognize SOssetia iff it joined wid NORTH OSSETIA AND SECEDED FROM THE RUSS FEDERATION???; + WILL THE US INVADE IRAN ANY DAY NOW [Signs of coming US-Iran War]? Alleged covert, escalatory US mil buildup of MBTS + other AFVS in Afghanistan - Vehicles are considered unsuitable for any Afghan-Paki milops, but is suitable for the flat terrain of IRAN???

Posted by JosephMendiola 2008-09-11 23:38|| 2008-09-11 23:38|| Front Page Top

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