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Obama on Palin: 'You can't just reinvent yourself'

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Posted by Fred 2008-09-09 00:00|| || Front Page|| [2 views ] Top

#1 Obama on Palin: 'You can't just reinvent yourself'

Why not? Do you hold the copyright on that or something?

Posted by gorb 2008-09-09 02:35|| 2008-09-09 02:35|| Front Page Top

#2 The American people aren't stupid.

Actually, a whole lot of them are - maybe enough to even elect Obama.

Posted by Glenmore 2008-09-09 07:39|| 2008-09-09 07:39|| Front Page Top

#3 bridge to nowhere

A phrase that appears to be a metaphor for his own political campaign.

Posted by Besoeker 2008-09-09 08:02|| 2008-09-09 08:02|| Front Page Top

#4 Hello all, just a small question that intrigues me, is Obama Christian or Muslim? Some news sources in Europe say Obama said he was Muslim, no problem with that but why is he hiding it if true?

Posted by Bezuki 2008-09-09 08:45|| 2008-09-09 08:45|| Front Page Top

#5 is Obama Christian or Muslim?

Let's not go there, OK? He was until recently a member of the Trinity United Church of Christ, which follows a radical black liberation variant of Christianity. (One that happens to be Biblically indefensible, but that's another topic for another time.)

Posted by Mike 2008-09-09 08:54|| 2008-09-09 08:54|| Front Page Top

#6 He was until recently a member of the Trinity United Church of Christ, which follows a radical black liberation variant of Christianity.

Actually, if you look at the "**** Liberation variant of Christianity", whatever it is, it is a variant of Christianity tht embraces and justifies what Muslims would call Jihad and Taquiya.

Different names.

Same rationalizations.

Same sense of self-righteousness.

Posted by Ptah">Ptah 2008-09-09 09:01|| http://www.crusaderwarcollege.org]">[http://www.crusaderwarcollege.org] 2008-09-09 09:01|| Front Page Top

#7 Yes, having attended the Trinity Church for some twenty years, that would have made him apostate to any Muslim tenet. However, the real question, given the liberation theology of that particular form of 'Christianity', is how deep are the tenets of Marxism/collectivism in his beliefs.

Posted by Procopius2k 2008-09-09 09:02|| 2008-09-09 09:02|| Front Page Top

#8 how deep are the tenets of Marxism/collectivism in his beliefs.

How deep? As you have said, they go back over 20 years and have been reiforced each Sunday via political indoctrination. He's definately a post-graduate level Marxist.

Posted by Besoeker 2008-09-09 09:09|| 2008-09-09 09:09|| Front Page Top

#9 said he was Muslim, no problem with that but why is he hiding it if true?

Muslim is an idelogy remember? I know of at least one German American who was rewarded with the Medal of Honor while fighting Germsns in WWI. But a German-American was one thing, a member or a "Deutscland uber alle" society would have been another thing. Just as American communists, whatever their origins, were a definite threat to security: their loyalties weren't with America.

Posted by JFM">JFM 2008-09-09 09:28|| 2008-09-09 09:28|| Front Page Top

#10 It is somewhat amusing that Obama-llama-ding-dong finds it necessary to attack Sarah Palin. I don't recall McCain making any attacks on Biden. He may have, but since the convention, media-wise Sarahcuda has sucked all the air of of the room. Does anyone remember from past election cycles a presidential candidate obsessing so much over the oppositiond Veep candidate?

Posted by Scott R 2008-09-09 09:48|| 2008-09-09 09:48|| Front Page Top

#11 Does anyone remember from past election cycles a presidential candidate obsessing so much over the oppositiond Veep candidate?

No. I think what we are witnessing is unique in the annals of American politics. If anyone has evidence to the contrary please share.

Posted by MarkZ 2008-09-09 10:17|| 2008-09-09 10:17|| Front Page Top

#12 He and the dhimocrats are going after Palin because they know she is the real threat. They had a slight chance against a McCain/boring white guy ticket. Now, they know they are being sunk. Their support, except for the black vote, is dropping across the board. Bambi knows that if this continues, they won't have a viable campaign when the first debates come up.
Basically, full panic mode and typical liberal attacks is what is happening. Fortunately, this will turn even more people off and really piss off the female votes which typically are the biggest dhimocrat voter block and are already backing Palin more and more.
The only real way for Bambi to win is to get McCain off his game. Right now McCain is so far in Bambi's OODA loop that the sidewinder is about to lock onto Bambi's six. McCain needs to be shown as unstable and lose his cool in a very public way. That is really the only viable strategy that I can see working at this point.
Otherwise, Bambi's campaign is gonna end up splattered all over the ground.

Posted by DarthVader 2008-09-09 10:25|| 2008-09-09 10:25|| Front Page Top

#13 According to America Right, Glenn Beck et al. both Biden and the Zero both voted for the bridge to nowhere also.

Obama-llama-ding-dong. Scott, plz advise next time as soda out the nose hurts...........

Posted by Everyday a Wildcat(KSU) 2008-09-09 10:27|| 2008-09-09 10:27|| Front Page Top

#14 is Obama Christian or Muslim?

Let's not go there, OK?

No, we WILL go there. It is part of the whole charade of painting the man's past as untouchable.

From the LA Times
http://articles.latimes.com/2007/mar/15/nation/na-obama15

" Neighborhood Muslims worshiped in a nearby house, which has since been replaced by a larger mosque. Sometimes, when the muezzin sounded the call to prayer, Lolo and Barry would walk to the makeshift mosque together, Adi said.

His mother often went to the church, but Barry was Muslim. He went to the mosque, Adi said. I remember him wearing a sarong.
...said Zulfin Adi, who describes himself as among Obamas closest childhood friends. "

The fact is that if it really was 'nothing', why do they always make a big deal of it? Personally, I didn't make a big deal of the Muslim rumors until the campaign started getting all worked up about it. Just like the COLB issue, the truth simply isn't good enough for us plain old folks, only the 'truth' they want us to swallow. THAT is the huge problem I have with this FAKE of a man.

The media is party to this. It is up to US to expose the truth.

Posted by logi_cal 2008-09-09 10:30|| 2008-09-09 10:30|| Front Page Top

#15 The fact is that if it really was 'nothing', why do they always make a big deal of it?

Because they believe, with justification, that it is an attempt to influence voters at an emotional level.

IMO what a kid does in a foreign culture when his mom shifts him around every couple years doesn't constitute his adult identity.

Posted by lotp 2008-09-09 10:36|| 2008-09-09 10:36|| Front Page Top

#16 #13 According to America Right, Glenn Beck et al. both Biden and the Zero both voted for the bridge to nowhere also.

yep link

Posted by Beavis 2008-09-09 10:41|| 2008-09-09 10:41|| Front Page Top

#17 Donks are running scared. Palin is a strong woman leader. She has more executive experience than both BO and Biden. She has been in charge of the Alaska National Guard and the State Police. She has ideas about what to do about energy. She has 80 percent approval ratings in Alaska. She is a fiscal conservative. I hear them getting desperate.

Posted by JohnQC 2008-09-09 10:50|| 2008-09-09 10:50|| Front Page Top

#18

Posted by DarthVader 2008-09-09 11:41|| 2008-09-09 11:41|| Front Page Top

#19 What's wrong with Kansas that we it has posters on this board? How is Roberts, Brownback, Moran, and Ryan doing in the election?

Posted by bman 2008-09-09 11:53|| 2008-09-09 11:53|| Front Page Top

#20 The one thing that the loons (and I include the Donk leadership) have done is believed their own propaganda.

The Right has been so thoroughly tarred as misogynist and racist that the idea of the Repubs. being enthusiastic about a woman was inconceivable. Now that their world view has exploded on them they don't know what to do or say.

If a black male with Sarah Palin's resume had been selected, he would have been greeted with just as much excitement, too. That would have been even more interesting because of the reaction of the Black establishment and regular folk. They can ignore Palin, could they ignore a Steele? My guess is that they would go even more unhinged.

Posted by AlanC">AlanC 2008-09-09 12:46|| 2008-09-09 12:46|| Front Page Top

#21 And while SP first supported, then opposed the bridge to nowhere, both The One and The Plug supported it during both voes. the second vote included moving money from Katrina relief to the B/T/N.
Where is that buzz in the MSM????

hope she can work that in w/ the ABC weekend

Posted by USN, Ret. 2008-09-09 14:26|| 2008-09-09 14:26|| Front Page Top

#22 Since Palin came on the scene, Barrack has been doing so much whining that I think he needs a bigger vineyard or it that vhineyard?

Posted by Richard of Oregon 2008-09-09 14:45|| 2008-09-09 14:45|| Front Page Top

#23 Here's my half-a'ed psychological analysis:

McCain's ad comparing him to Britney and Paris was closer to the mark than Obama will ever admit. He has been the superstar in this race until August. He's the hip, cool guy that looks great and has coasted on his charisma for a good long run. Never mind that he flips, flops, and flips again....his supporters don't notice and don't care. Voting for him means they are hip, cool and stylish too. (He's more of a brand than a candidate when you stop to think about it. He's light on substance, big on image.)

Now....here comes Palin, and she steals all his thunder, right after his Grecian coronation in the Rockies (his shining moment till now). He didn't even get 24 hours of reflected glory from it before all the press stopped focusing on him and went 24-7 on Palin.

How could this....girl, from some burg out in the freakin' Alaskan wilderness, be more fascinating than he is? There had to be something to bring up to show that she's not all that, right?

But like any brand, well, you can't start right off with direct attacks. Get other people to do it for you, have them show this other's flaws while you float above it all. Make a meek little statement saying that family members are off-limits and let your minions do their work while you go into seclusion.

However....his PR/marketing flacks, well....they suck. They don't respect or understand the target audience (small-town to suburban independent swing voters) and condescend to it. Surely these gun-clingin' yokels are gonna have a fit about Bristol, or none of these hicks are gonna tolerate some woman with five kids who doesn't stay home instead of working in a man' job, right?

This whole Palin thing messed with the plan to whip them PUMA's into shape, also. McCain presented them with another opportunity to strike back at a guy they didn't like in the first place, who took their heroine's rightful place somewhere on the Dem ticket.

His subordinates' and other useful idiots' "messages", presented to both groups with barely concealed contempt and sarcasm, backfired badly. They are now coming up on panic mode and this left no choice but for Obama to participate. He has to think on the fly and he's not doing so well at it. It's possible he's out of practice, but more likely he never had to do it before. (Why else would he have had that diva moment about how he didn't fly around for 19 months and put up with the tedium of it all to come in second, or make the flub about his Muslim faith?)

Palin upset his whole plan from now on. Biden wasn't going to deflect any glory from him, and he was going to coast to victory over that old guy with the Trunks. Obama, Pelosi, Brazile and Dean (sounds like a law firm, don't it?) didn't think McCain had it in him to do something like this, and they never came up with a Plan B.

They will come up with another plan, sometime, but the magic's gone and it ain't coming back. And you damn well know he knows it even if the rest of the bunch at the DNC haven't figured it out. This is his one shot....and he's pretty much blown it.

Worst of all....he knows that up in Noo Yawk....the Clintons are laughing their asses off about it and plotting for 2012. Oprah's not going to take his calls after November, and he'll have to settle for being the junior senator from Illinois.

Posted by Swamp Blondie in the Cornfields 2008-09-09 18:11|| 2008-09-09 18:11|| Front Page Top

#24 I think he needs a Waaambulance.

Posted by Deacon Blues">Deacon Blues 2008-09-09 18:18|| 2008-09-09 18:18|| Front Page Top

#25 Gee, that sounds just like what happened to the junior senator from Massachusetts, Swamp Blondie.

Posted by trailing wife ">trailing wife 2008-09-09 18:19|| 2008-09-09 18:19|| Front Page Top

#26 The American people aren't stupid.

I understand that 50% of us are actually below average intelligence. The Government really needs to do something about that.

/sarc

Posted by Parabellum 2008-09-09 18:24|| 2008-09-09 18:24|| Front Page Top

#27 Do what, bman?

Posted by Barbara Skolaut">Barbara Skolaut 2008-09-09 18:55|| http://ariellestjohndesigns.com/]">[http://ariellestjohndesigns.com/] 2008-09-09 18:55|| Front Page Top

#28 tw, sort of....but no one was calling J F'n K the Messiah, and he didn't publish two autobiographies before he turned 50. They're both narcissists, but Obama's got him beat by miles in that department.

Posted by Swamp Blondie in the Cornfields 2008-09-09 19:17|| 2008-09-09 19:17|| Front Page Top

#29 is Obama Christian or Muslim?

Momar Khadafi in Libya says he's a Moslem.

Obama's attendance at a church for 20 years wouldn't matter to other Moslems, if he is doing it as part of jihad. They are allowed to LIE to get to a further goal.

His liberation theology brainwashing also would teach him that to be personally saved, he has to "save" his fellow man (has to be the big daddy of everyone), and if he doesn't he won't find his salvation.

So he's a Moslem Communist who BELIEVES he MUST save the world.

Don't that just explain everything?

Posted by ex-lib 2008-09-09 19:26|| 2008-09-09 19:26|| Front Page Top

#30 is Obama Christian or Muslim?

That is easy. He is neither.

I will say this. The big guy upstairs does work in strange ways. When it was clear that it was going to be Obama vs McCain, my little prayer was, "Oh, no, we need a miracle." Then out of nowhere comes Palin.

Wonder what would have happened if she was running in the primaries? Would it have been Obama vs Palin? I think not. But with here as the VP choice, the McCain/Palin ticket it the right combo.

Miracles DO happen.

Posted by Grins Oppressor of the Pixies4430 2008-09-09 20:52|| 2008-09-09 20:52|| Front Page Top

#31 Alan C is correct. These people have been breathing their own exhaust for so long that Palin wasn't even remotely a possibility in their minds.

Posted by Mike N. 2008-09-09 20:55|| 2008-09-09 20:55|| Front Page Top

#32 DRUDGEREPORT [paraph]> OBAMA GAFFE: "LIPSTICK ON A PIG, IS STILL A PIG".

Ouch - First HILLARY, now SARAH = BLUE-COLLAR HOCKEY MOMS....You just know MICHELLE's getting ready to unsheath and crush some Male Gonads wid this one.

Posted by JosephMendiola 2008-09-09 21:50|| 2008-09-09 21:50|| Front Page Top

#33 FREEREPUBLIC > OBAMA PASTOR IN NEW SEX SCANDAL.

Posted by JosephMendiola 2008-09-09 21:53|| 2008-09-09 21:53|| Front Page Top

#34 OTOH, MSM POLITICAL TOON > shows BARACK running away to the right away from HILLARY's FEMME SUPER-DELEGATES armed wid Mops and Baking Pins. NEXT SKIT > Barack running the other way to the left from angry femmes [Sarah = bikini?] armed wid KOCKEY STICKS + PLAYSTATION CONTROLLERS + AK47's???

Posted by JosephMendiola 2008-09-09 22:05|| 2008-09-09 22:05|| Front Page Top

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