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Unity is a Town in NH, not in Colorado....Break Out the Popcorn?

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Posted by Swamp Blondie in the Cornfields 2008-08-25 08:36|| || Front Page|| [4 views ] Top

#1 It is worth it to remember that Hillary got those delegates seated. There had to be some serious brass knuckle wrangling for that to have happened. It would not at all surprise me if there is some attempt by Hillary supporters to lead a call for an actual vote from the superdelegates.

I've been watching the behind the scenes on this with some angst - as I can't wait until the bells toll the wicked witch dead, but she's not dead yet, and her nature would not be to give up.

I wonder if this article gives us a a small hint of how something might go down. Perhaps Hillary will stand back and feign surprise while a group of "bitter post-menopausal hags" call for the vote.

I seriously doubt that Hillary can somehow pull it off at this point - but I have no doubt that she has been pulling out all stops and that no superdelegate has been left unbruised from her beatings in smokey back rooms. Like I say, it seems unlikely to me, but I'll be so glad this convention ends with Hillary packing her broomstick and flying into the sunset.

Posted by Betty Grating2215 2008-08-25 09:59|| 2008-08-25 09:59|| Front Page Top

#2 Yes, but only at the end of the week, when the blood on the floor is ankle-deep.

Metaphorically, that is.

Posted by Bobby 2008-08-25 10:58|| 2008-08-25 10:58|| Front Page Top

#3 Hillary base under Obama = red headed step children

Posted by Capsu78 2008-08-25 11:12|| 2008-08-25 11:12|| Front Page Top

#4 Capsu - You are probably right. But the Clintons are masters of divide and conquer. Don't underestimate them. It is obvious that there is something going on behind the scenes. What would worry me, if I was Obama or Biden, is that the Clinton's have made a big show of how they are going to have teams of whips "ready to keep the "crazy" Clinton supporters in line. History has shown the Clintons to be the most gracious just before they strike.

I will be sooo glad that they are gone. I'm old enough to remember before and after the Clintons came on the scene. BC (before Clinton) it was politics as usual, which was rough, but after Clintons is when you could not sit at a dinner table without enduring a screed from some leftist acolite thinking themselves to be "elite" in thought word and deed. The Clintons are shrewd, ruthless thugs who are serious players. Obama and Biden are more like Kerry or Gary Hart: Faces put forth by the political machines whose real players are too ugly or tainted to be on a ticket.

I think Obama and Biden are weak - even with full media support. I hope Bobby is right!!

Posted by Betty Grating2215 2008-08-25 12:04|| 2008-08-25 12:04|| Front Page Top

#5 Pay attention also to the suit filed in a PA federal court this past Friday by a Clinton supporter and longtime party hack alleging:

1. Obama was born in Kenya. The plaintiff reportedly claims to have in his possession a Kenyan birth certificate issued within a week of The One's date of birth listin The One's father as the father of the child.

2. That Obama's dual US / Kenyan citizenship disqualifies him from holding the office of President due to the inherent conflict of interest.

3. That Obama traveled to Pakistan on an Indonesian passport as a youth and that this happened as a result of his adoption by his stepfather in Indonesia.

Just to be clear since I know more than a few here have strong feelings about these matters: I'm not supporting or advocating any of these positions, I merely find it curious that a Clintonista filed such an action in a swing state a week before the convention. Probably also doesn't hurt that Bill appointed the judge hearing the case.

Posted by AzCat 2008-08-25 12:52|| 2008-08-25 12:52|| Front Page Top

#6 AzCat:

Your musting fits right in with my fantasy position of last week.

I'm wondering if Hillary is going to use her speech to drop a bomb on Obomba. My guess was it would be scandalous new relevations about Ayers, Wright, Rezko or Birth Certificate. I was leaning toward the CAC papers but who knows.

I don't expect this to actually happen but.......................... ;^)

Posted by AlanC 2008-08-25 14:08|| 2008-08-25 14:08|| Front Page Top

#7 Doing that would poison her chances for this or future tickets.

But someone else might do it on her behalf, perhaps.

Posted by lotp 2008-08-25 14:21|| 2008-08-25 14:21|| Front Page Top

#8 lotp, you're probably right which is why I don't expect it to happen. What I DO expect is that she will sandbag Zero so that he loses the election setting herself up to run agianst a very old McC or a newbie in 2012.

Posted by AlanC 2008-08-25 15:32|| 2008-08-25 15:32|| Front Page Top

#9 The real key to me is that half of the Hillary Clinton Democrats are going for McCain. That should be enough to put him over the top in the national election, even as the Democrats continue to play for points at the party convention. Perhaps in 2012 the Democratic candidates will have realized that it isn't really about finagling convention delegates, but about seducing enough actual voters to get to the White House.

Posted by trailing wife">trailing wife 2008-08-25 15:54|| 2008-08-25 15:54|| Front Page Top

#10 Clinton drops another clue:
Clinton will not tell her delegates to vote for Obama

Speaking to reporters after her address to the New York delegation, Clinton offered delegates no instruction on how to cast their votes, Amie Parnes reports.

"I will be telling my delegates that I will vote for Barack Obama," she said. "How they vote is a more personal decision. They want to have their chance to vote for me. That is what traditionally happens ... some people are having to make up their minds because there are arguments pulling them both ways."

I would submit that you could see this coming the minute she got those delegates seated.

Posted by Betty Grating2215 2008-08-25 15:56|| 2008-08-25 15:56|| Front Page Top

#11 and this: LINK

"I know a lot of hardened Clinton delegates who are going to be OK, they're going to wind up supporting Sen. Obama," Pennsylvania Gov. Ed Rendell, a Clinton supporter, told USA TODAY. "But they want to cast their votes for her. I think that'll make it easier for there to be closure."

lol! It begins....

Posted by Betty Grating2215 2008-08-25 16:07|| 2008-08-25 16:07|| Front Page Top

#12 But someone else might do it on her behalf, perhaps.

Yep. Bill and the Hildebeeste won't get their hands dirty in this affair as they need to ensure that they retain the ability to unify the Democratic Party behind themselves following Obama's impending defeat. Tough to do that if you're seen throwing the poster boy for the angry left under the bus.

I expect death by a thousand paper cuts for the Obama campaign. No one too closely associated with the Clintons, none of the inner circle, just those far enough away to maintain a sheen of plausible deniability. I expect the nonsense in PA is but the first of many swing state shenanigans to come.

Posted by AzCat 2008-08-25 18:31|| 2008-08-25 18:31|| Front Page Top

#13 ACcat - I'm sure that's the plan.

But what I think is really interesting is:

Hillary and Bill would instruct their delegates not to call for a vote if they didn't think that Hillary would get an impressive showing. In fact, I'm surprised they would want a vote at all if they thought she didn't have any chance of winning it.

Posted by Betty Grating2215 2008-08-25 21:20|| 2008-08-25 21:20|| Front Page Top

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