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2008-07-15 India-Pakistan

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#1 Zero sum beliefs in action.

Posted by g(r)omgoru 2008-07-15 09:55|| 2008-07-15 09:55|| Front Page Top

#2 And pride in begging

Posted by john frum 2008-07-15 15:08|| 2008-07-15 15:08|| Front Page Top

#3 As a countryman I am filled with dismay at this abject state of affairs - where o where is the promised land of opportunities that our forefathers sacrificed to attain this !???

Posted by Thaper Peacock6301 2008-07-15 15:54|| 2008-07-15 15:54|| Front Page Top

#4 Read
The Messiah and The Promised Land

What, then, was partition all about?

Posted by john frum 2008-07-15 16:04|| 2008-07-15 16:04|| Front Page Top

#5 As V. S. Naipaul, an expert on the history of the region put it in his book, Beyond Belief: Islamic Excursions Among the Converted Peoples

It was Muslim insecurity that led to the call for the creation of Pakistan. It went at the same time with an idea of old glory, of the invaders sweeping down from the northwest and looting the temples of Hindustan and imposing the faith on the infidel. The fantasy still lives; and for the Muslim converts of the subcontinent it is the start of their neurosis, because in this fantasy the convert forgets who or what he is and becomes the violator. P. 247

The Indian subcontinent had been bloodily partitioned to create the state of Pakistan. Millions had died, and many more had been uprooted, on both sides of the new frontiers. More than a hundred million Muslims had been abandoned on the Indian side, but virtually all the Hindus and Sikhs had been chased away from Pakistan.

Islam is in its origins an Arab religion. Everyone not an Arab who is a Muslim is a convert. Islam is not simply a matter of conscience or private belief. It makes imperial demands. A converts worldview alters. His holy places are in Arab lands; his language is Arabic. His idea of history alters. He rejects his own; he becomes, whether he likes it or not, a part of the Arab story. The convert has to turn away from everything that is his. The disturbance for societies is immense, and even after a thousand years can remain unresolved; the turning away has to be done again and again. People develop fantasies about who and what they are; and in the Islam of the converted countries there is an element of neurosis and nihilism. These countries can be easily set on the boil.

Posted by john frum 2008-07-15 16:14|| 2008-07-15 16:14|| Front Page Top

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