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2008-07-11 Iraq
Insurgents Using New Homemade Rocket Weapon in Iraq
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Posted by GolfBravoUSMC 2008-07-11 00:48|| || Front Page|| [7 views ]  Top

#1 Why don't we drop posters of nakid women in Iran and paraylze the country.
Posted by Pliny Sleash8027 2008-07-11 01:07||   2008-07-11 01:07|| Front Page Top

#2 This is pretty much a regurgitation of an old news story. Back before the IA went into Sadr City one of these trucks loaded with IRAMs exploded when one of the rockets apparently misfired. A story much like this one appeared in the news at that time. Wonder how many times they can print the same story and the weapon still be "new".
Posted by crosspatch 2008-07-11 01:28||   2008-07-11 01:28|| Front Page Top

#3 Crosspatch, that would be because someone finally figured out it has been the leading cause of death among U.S. and coalition troops in Iraq. So it fits neatly into the 'quagmire' meme.
Posted by Bobby 2008-07-11 05:55||   2008-07-11 05:55|| Front Page Top

#4 However, since AQI is fleeing to greener pastures to avoid being exterminated, and they have been urged to export their tactics to America, Britain, France, and Denmark, maybe sales and threfts of propane should be monitored carefully? And since the rockets are made by Iran, Russia, and China, with Medvedev boasting about record arms exports, all imports from these areas should also be carefully watched for. High-powered homemade bombs, especially dirty ones, could easily wreak havoc relatively easily on soft targets.
Posted by Danielle 2008-07-11 10:12||   2008-07-11 10:12|| Front Page Top

#5 How big are these rockets, that they can lift a propane tank any sort of distance - I'm presuming a standard pot-bellied grill propane tank, or something larger?

Also, how are they stabilizing these things so that they're any more accurate than a Congreve rocket? It has to be something, or else they wouldn't have killed anyone other than random passerby...
Posted by Mitch H.">Mitch H.  2008-07-11 10:34|| http://blogfonte.blogspot.com/]">[http://blogfonte.blogspot.com/]  2008-07-11 10:34|| Front Page Top

#6 "AQI is fleeing to greener pastures"

Danielle, I think the correct term is "browner pastures" since they are fleeing to such "garden spots" as Somalia and Darfur.

Mitch,
I don't think those rockets are stablized. The operative statement was where they said the deadliest "attack" was when several of the bombs exploded prematurely and killed 18 people (including 2 attackers).

The size of the problem can be gathered from the fact that there have been fewer than 10 attacks. A classic example of MSM making a mountain out of a molehill.
Posted by Frozen Al 2008-07-11 12:07||   2008-07-11 12:07|| Front Page Top

#7 "A classic example of MSM making a mountain out of a molehill."

And the enemy will now feed that. They know our media is now "sensitive" to attacks by those weapons and so now there will be more because they know each one of them will now be reported with increasingly shrill reporting. The media just "signaled" the enemy that they should start doing more of those attacks because it will get them on the front page again.
Posted by crosspatch 2008-07-11 13:42||   2008-07-11 13:42|| Front Page Top

#8 This is the same kind of crudely improvised rocket weapon guerrillas, terrorists and other desperate types have been throwing together for at least a hundred years.

Imagine the response if the insurgents went back to using flintlock muskets:

Deadly New Improvised Weapon Threatens US Troops

US efforts to choke off the flow of imported munitions to Iraqi insurgents may have backfired. Resistance groups are reported to have replaced their aging AK-47s with ingenious new home-made weapons that can be manufactured by traditional village craftsmen using commonly available materials. The weapons, fabricated from bar stock, old transmission parts, and broken furniture, even use locally manufactured ammunition, emphasizing the fierce independence of the Iraqi fighters.

The improvised fire-arm's projectile is cast from old wheel weights and fishing sinkers. It is said to be up to ten times as heavy as the bullets fired by the high-tech American M-16, first adopted during the disastrous war in Vietnam.
"Yeah, if one of them suckers hit you, you would probably be dead," admitted Specialist Dimbert Remf, a data entry clerk with MNF-Baghdad's local contracting office.

For propellant, the new insurgent weapons replace expensive imported powder with a simple mixture of widely available chemicals, including ordinary charcoal. The charge is ignited by a simple and environmentally sound combination of flint and steel of the same kind used by indigenous peoples for centuries. The propellant has the added advantage of concealing the user in a dense cloud of whitish smoke when fired. The new weapons are reportedly accurate enough to hit American M-1 tanks at ranges up to 50 meters.

Posted by Atomic Conspiracy 2008-07-11 13:58||   2008-07-11 13:58|| Front Page Top

#9 We want the Iranian Madhi stooges to use this weapon. It is just as likely to kill Shiite civilians as Sunni suicide bombs with the same result. Longwar Jopurnal had a good write up about this. Be sure to view the slide show.
Mahdi Army uses flying IEDs in Baghdad
Posted by ed 2008-07-11 14:26||   2008-07-11 14:26|| Front Page Top

#10 Yeah, those are modified heavy mortars. Not exactly the same thing as a "homemade rocket weapon".

And apparently they're not so inaccurate that they haven't killed a couple of unlucky soldiers.
Posted by Mitch H.">Mitch H.  2008-07-11 14:40|| http://blogfonte.blogspot.com/]">[http://blogfonte.blogspot.com/]  2008-07-11 14:40|| Front Page Top

#11 Read it again, Mitch. These are rockets, though not quite home-made.
The idea is to use the excess thrust of a common barrage rocket to toss a much heavier warhead, at considerable cost in range and accuracy.
Posted by Atomic Conspiracy 2008-07-11 14:46||   2008-07-11 14:46|| Front Page Top

#12 The new weapons are reportedly accurate enough to hit American M-1 tanks at ranges up to 50 meters.
LOL way good AC.
Posted by .5MT 2008-07-11 15:48|| www.cybernations.net]">[www.cybernations.net]  2008-07-11 15:48|| Front Page Top

#13 ROLF! AC, that's a classic.
Posted by Scooter McGruder 2008-07-11 16:00||   2008-07-11 16:00|| Front Page Top

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