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2007-11-30 Syria-Lebanon-Iran
FrontPage Symposium: Hitting Iran?
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Posted by ed 2007-11-30 07:53|| || Front Page|| [5 views ]  Top
 File under: Govt of Iran 

#1 Ledeen: ... I agree with Dr. Gunaratna and Tom, that bombing Iran would not be a happy event. Indeed, I think it would demonstrate the failure of Western policy across the board. But I fear we are headed in that direction, since nobody has the stomach or the will to support democratic revolution in Iran. So one day we will face the awful choice neatly put by Sarkozy and Kouchner: Iran with the bomb, or bomb Iran. Ugh.

Hobson's choice.

Schippert: ... In short, to afford the world's premier state sponsor of terrorism [Iran] the game of nuance is a fool's errand.

The discussion should not be made or perceived as one of whether to counter-attack the Iranian terror machine, but how to counter attack it. That, I believe, risks being lost in this discussion.

A few things are certain as the terror persists and the race to nuclear arms continues hardly abated. The clock has run out on the ill-conducted Radio Farda and VOA information campaigns and it is running out on limited international and unilateral sanction regimes. The IAEA is incapable of monitoring a recalcitrant Iranian nuclear program, partly because it lacks any enforcement mechanism and partly because it lacks the will. It was after all from ElBaradei's own lips that came the words, "I have no brief other than to make sure that we don't go into another war or we go crazy into killing each other." Silly us for thinking it was to investigate and inspect.


By AlBaradei's own admission, he would rather dither interminably than see substantive action taken against Iran. AlBaradei is nothing but an Islamic collaborator in Iran's efforts to build a nuclear bomb. He should be tried and executed for his complicity in this terrorist charade.
Posted by Zenster">Zenster  2007-11-30 11:27||   2007-11-30 11:27|| Front Page Top

#2 Gunaratna: Attacking Iran will be much more devastating for the United States than attacking Iraq. Iran will retaliate with strikes against US targets both in the US mainland and overseas. Furthermore, Iran is next door to Afghanistan and to Iraq, the two most important theatres of conflict for the US and the West.

Attacking Iraq was in no way devastating to the United States; most people are hardly aware there is a war going on. If Iran "retaliates" against the United States mainland then all Hell itself will descend upon them. Furthermore, Iran is surrounded by United States forces in the Gulf, in Iraq and in Afghanistan.
Posted by Excalibur 2007-11-30 12:38||   2007-11-30 12:38|| Front Page Top

#3 "Iran with the bomb, or bomb Iran."

Actually the issue is even simpler: Bomb Iran after they nuke a European city, or bomb Iran before they nuke a European city.

These guys need the hidden Imam to come out of his well, and they will do anything they have to in order to bring that about.

Al
Posted by Frozen Al 2007-11-30 14:35||   2007-11-30 14:35|| Front Page Top

#4 Remove the well he needs to come out of.
Posted by 3dc 2007-11-30 15:07||   2007-11-30 15:07|| Front Page Top

#5 Israel has said it believes, given analyses of Iran's milpol history since 1979, Iran's most likely method of retaliation in near-term agz any US-Allied attack would be via PROXY/
SURROGATE TERROR. PRE-ANNAPOLIS > OLMERT > has recently asserted that ISRAEL WILL NEVER ALLOW IRAN TO DEV NUKE WEAPONS OR BOMBS.

Add to MOUD's, etc. on-going rhetoric and escalations over Iran's nuke rights + reports of Iranian nucdev, + NO "REGIME CHANGE"?, A US-IRAN CONFLICT BEFORE 2008 US ELEX = JAN 2009 REMAINS HIGHLY REALISTIC AND LIKELY. Iff the USA or Iran do not attack or war agz one another before 2008 elex = Jan 2009, ISRAEL UNILATER WILL. IRAN WILL PLAN ON THE USA-NATO RESERVING ITS STRENGTH FOR ANY POTENTIAL RUSSIAN-CHIN MIL INTERVENTION OR RETALIATION AGZ ISRAEL.
Posted by JosephMendiola 2007-11-30 18:29||   2007-11-30 18:29|| Front Page Top

#6 And , lest we fergit, IRAN's post-1979 CONSTITUTION > mandates support for Islamic "GLOBALISM" = GLOBAL ISLAMIC-JIHADIST STATE. IOW, Iran's Govt is constitutionally charged with Iran NOT remaining a REGIONAL POWER NOR TRANSREGIONAL MINOR = "BIG POWER". Iran's Govt is charged to make Iran a de facto GLOBAL SUPERPOWER, + UNIPOLAR [IRAN-CENTRIC/CONTROLED OWG WORLD STATE] AMAP.
Posted by JosephMendiola 2007-11-30 18:37||   2007-11-30 18:37|| Front Page Top

#7 These guys need the hidden Imam to come out of his well, and they will do anything they have to in order to bring that about.

How very sad that so few people seem to have the least inkling of this.
Posted by Zenster">Zenster  2007-11-30 19:55||   2007-11-30 19:55|| Front Page Top

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