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2007-09-11 Home Front: WoT

Trashing Petraeus: MoveOn.org, and the new standards of Democratic debate

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Posted by Mike 2007-09-11 06:21|| || Front Page|| [4 views ] Top
File under: Iraqi Insurgency

#1 Why do they act so surprised? Does it take an act this overt for them to finally realize that the Dem party is bought and paid for by those who do not have America's interests at heart. Good Grief. HEELLLOOOOO!
Where have you been WSJ? Clearly not paying attention for the last 15 years.

Posted by Unutle McGurque8861 2007-09-11 09:22|| 2007-09-11 09:22|| Front Page Top

#2 You know, if they keep pushing, one of these days the guns are going to come out, and people will kill them for the traitors they are.

Posted by OldSpook 2007-09-11 09:36|| 2007-09-11 09:36|| Front Page Top

#3 If the dhimocrats don't shape up, that day will come much sooner than you think.

Posted by DarthVader">DarthVader 2007-09-11 10:08|| 2007-09-11 10:08|| Front Page Top

#4 Copperheads.

Posted by Excalibur 2007-09-11 10:18|| 2007-09-11 10:18|| Front Page Top

#5 Never politicize the military. Hammer anyone who tries. Because you never want to give the people a choice between their military and their pandering corrupt pols. Nope. Never. Nada.

Posted by Procopius2k 2007-09-11 10:37|| 2007-09-11 10:37|| Front Page Top

#6 I thought they wanted us to listen to the generals a few months back? This is sooooo confusing!

Posted by Swamp Blondie 2007-09-11 10:55|| 2007-09-11 10:55|| Front Page Top

#7 Petraues said in his statement, his fact were put together WITHOUT anyone from the White House, Pentagon, or Congress. Dodd is an ass.

Posted by Boss Craising2882 2007-09-11 11:27|| 2007-09-11 11:27|| Front Page Top

#8 Re #2-#5: I just finished reading Imperium by Robert Harris. It's a fictionalized biography of Cicero and (therefore) is set in the late Roman Republic. At one point Cicero is counseling Gnaeus Pompey, the 'great' general, who is planning some slick manuever that will bring him more power at the expense of his rivals. It isn't working very well, and Cicero needs to save Pompey's bacon.

I'm quoting from memory here, but Cicero makes note of the fact that great generals are revered precisely because they remain above politics, and the instant they involve themselves in political intrigue, they're no longer great.

There's a lesson for us.

Posted by Steve White">Steve White 2007-09-11 11:42|| 2007-09-11 11:42|| Front Page Top

#9 It's a lesson well understood by the US military, for whom staying apolitical is a key doctrine.

If anything, many Army leaders disagreed with the approach to the war for several years. The suggestion that a man like David Petraeus is the stoodge of the White House is contemptible.

Posted by lotp 2007-09-11 11:52|| 2007-09-11 11:52|| Front Page Top

#10 ~~stoodge~~ stooge

Posted by lotp 2007-09-11 11:54|| 2007-09-11 11:54|| Front Page Top

#11 I haven't had any respect for the demonrats in a long time. I firmly believe they are the party of racists, murderers, rapists, criminals and traitors. More and more they prove that they have given up their humanity as well. When the day comes that they spark the end of tolerance for them and their lies, they should remember that it was they who removed any chance for mercy and compassion for themselves. I do not hate them, they are not worthy of such emotion. Instead I seem them as I would a rabid animal, but without the pity.

Posted by Silentbrick">Silentbrick 2007-09-11 12:06|| 2007-09-11 12:06|| Front Page Top

#12 #9 It's a lesson well understood by the US military, for whom staying apolitical is a key doctrine.

Until you teach the military that anything they achieve at the price of blood and body on any battlefield or any campaign is for nothing other than to give two bit losers a posturing position to get "a couple more Senate seats". What's the purpose of fighting if you're only sold out in the end? That's why the pols are playing a very very dangerous game. Human behavior is consistent through the centuries. The results are there for anyone with an awareness greater than the length of their nose.

Posted by Procopius2k 2007-09-11 12:15|| 2007-09-11 12:15|| Front Page Top

#13 I know, procopius, I know.

Posted by lotp 2007-09-11 12:31|| 2007-09-11 12:31|| Front Page Top

#14 #2-5 Sign me up.

Posted by jds 2007-09-11 13:05|| 2007-09-11 13:05|| Front Page Top

#15 Remember its: "all enemies, foreign and DOMESTIC"

Posted by jds 2007-09-11 13:07|| 2007-09-11 13:07|| Front Page Top

#16 Why do I keep having the recurring thought that it's time for another revolution?

If we allow people to live among us who essentially want our destruction, the day will come when as a simple matter of self preservation, we must decide to do something about it.

Either that or we fall as surely as the towers did.

Posted by mcsegeek1 2007-09-11 14:17|| 2007-09-11 14:17|| Front Page Top

#17 Remember folks, this is the same left-wing media and enablers who just a few weeks ago on HuffPo was asking the military to overthrow Bush and declare martial law ala Mushie in Pak land. They can't seem to make their minds up about the military which is scarier than if they were just point-blank anti-military. They would actually use the military for a super-poliltical reason.

Posted by Jack is Back!">Jack is Back! 2007-09-11 14:48|| 2007-09-11 14:48|| Front Page Top

#18 Which is why they imagine the White House interfering with Petraeus' report - they'd do so in a heartbeat.

Posted by lotp 2007-09-11 15:29|| 2007-09-11 15:29|| Front Page Top

#19 Projection or desperation?

Posted by gorb 2007-09-11 16:26|| 2007-09-11 16:26|| Front Page Top

#20 Let US get something straight right now. Their 40 years of governance has produced the conditions that they now "Run Against"

I told Saddam "like" 9 times to stop firing at our choppers - of the numerous engagements we had just had. I knew that MF was crazy. The reasons were in Babylon are very VERY numerous.

We protected two sides then, and the third now - in the latter, you have three significant tribes that believe that you do not take sides. This significance resonates throughout the middle east. They watch with great eyeballs as you defame the whole mission. And you do not understand the whole mission because Washington and that damned media is all about giving up secrets.

I would have sent Petraeus back home yesterday. After all, he actually has a job to do. All of those AFU "representatives wanted to test speech writing skills or read news reports from the BBC.

I heard a few good questions but that was only if I could sort through the BS politics to get one.
In either case, this democratica"" congress has corrupted the argument because what I want to see here testifying before you is a WAR GENERAL testifying before the American people without CORRUPT THOUGHT. When you lecture him, it is very hard to hear from him. I think you, congress, are in default, and the senate also.

If I call a leader to the step of that building, I expect a representative view with respect.

Democrats do not respect anything American, and so shall I view them. Foreign law by foreign interest as well as unconstitutional.

Yeah, there IS a plan. A very big one in fact.

If lawmakers "" do not recognize evidence, they have in NO WAY my confidence to run a law firm. And if Soldiers are by no way allowed to have an even investment on the field you invest in, It is time to find a new investment America, because when you drop this ball that was so firmly handed to you, to run to the opposite goal line is not only "un-American" but plain stupid. If you forgot what quarter this is, you need to understand that time already ran out and I expect honesty over politics every day.

You Bare false witness, Democrats.

It would have better for you to have asked one of your employees productive questions. Especially you "Presidential hopefuls". I would imagine an honest A&Q session would be much appreciated from the public.

Your politics rot the entire earth.

If you ever waste one of my Military Commanders time like that again, I will smite you with all my might.

You are whores, you have no business dictating to the military your corruption. I told you more than 10 years ago you needed a standing army. I told you I did not like clinton. I told you that the Moslems were on the move even before we went to Bosnia. Now I tell you this, Congress. It is a good idea to win this war.

I held a stopwatch to FDR also. He was not dinner conversation, moreover fistfight conversation and rude testaments. Precepts for failure.

This is like IKE you are fooling with.

Posted by newc">newc 2007-09-11 17:18|| 2007-09-11 17:18|| Front Page Top

#21 The problem with the military staying apolitical is that the Democrats hate the Military and have hated the military since the 1960's.

It is very hard to be apolitical when one side is actively trying to get you killed.

Al

Posted by Frozen Al 2007-09-11 18:04|| 2007-09-11 18:04|| Front Page Top

#22 "Why do I keep having the recurring thought that it's time for another revolution?"

Probably because it is.

But I don't think it has a snowball's chance in Hell of happening.

Posted by Dave D.">Dave D. 2007-09-11 18:18|| 2007-09-11 18:18|| Front Page Top

#23 Many who get off the plane have a positive view of their accomplishments. I wanted General Petareus off that plane fresh and new to testify on what he has learned. You turned it into a circus. I will not forgive you for this. I wanted really good questions and you Damned foold made me sit through hours of shit to get to anything that YOU SHOULD ASK. I have had it. I told you I already hear what you say on your soap box every day. So much so, that you are a depressing part of my day, always. Not always as in always this year, but always as in all of the time this body has seen you. You are the worst military and intel people of all time Democrats"". your communist take over got in the way of protecting people.

I AM writing lists right now, and I told you to chose sides far long ago.

Somebody is fired.

Posted by newc">newc 2007-09-11 18:52|| 2007-09-11 18:52|| Front Page Top

#24 You treat me like an imbecile. This is not a job position I take lightly.

There are lies both way but that does not prevent the necessity of being serious about our aspirations, nor does it grant you forgiveness for your screw ups to preach to the only man in Washington I wanted to hear from. Your Stalinist purges are not forgivable, what you have done to these men is not forgivable, and you asking a full bull from the hilton of intense these BS questions that are five minutes long are also unforgivable. What you cannot see is I AM not the only to see through my eyes, and Americans may watch this also. I prayed that you would understand the importance of this and found naught.

You wasted two days of my time.

If you want to be romans, go for it, I predict not 30 years for your time.

Posted by newc">newc 2007-09-11 19:10|| 2007-09-11 19:10|| Front Page Top

#25 newc, you are channeling my brain today.

Posted by Glenmore">Glenmore 2007-09-11 19:38|| 2007-09-11 19:38|| Front Page Top

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