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2007-09-11 Afghanistan

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Posted by Fred 2007-09-11 00:00|| || Front Page|| [6 views ] Top
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#1 Karzai made the offer on Sunday, with the insurgency spiralling to its highest level this year, saying peace could not be achieved without dialogue.

Karzai should know better than anyone that there is no such thing as "negotiating" with a Muslim. Moreover, two Muslims negotiating with each other must rank as one of the greatest possible excercises in futility. It is unimaginable how either side can fool itselfor their respective counterpartinto believing that either of them are in ernest.

Asked for a reaction to the Taliban Monday, Karzais spokesman Homayun Hamidzada said the governments doors are open to anyone who agrees to obey the constitution and other laws of the country to join peace.

I have little doubt that the Taleban probably are obeying Afghanistan's shari'a tainted constitution. This is exactly what Karzai deserves for allowing such an abortion of justice.

But Hekmatyars spokesman, Mohammad Haroon Zarghoon, told AFP Monday the factions position remained that it would only meet the government if the tens of thousands of international troops in Afghanistan pulled out.

What! No pony? The usual ludicrous Islamic demands. There needs to be a policy put in place of simply killing on the spot anyone who makes these sort of ridiculous requests.

"Release 500 prisoners in exchange for this video ta... [blammo]"

"Withdraw all troops as a precondition for negotia... [kapowie]"

"Destroy all copies of these cartoons or face dire reve... [bangitty bang]"

Posted by Zenster">Zenster 2007-09-11 03:31|| 2007-09-11 03:31|| Front Page Top

#2 It's important to remember that karzai is every bit as much the lying little sh*t as the talibunnies. Thre are NO indigenous honest brokers in the middle east. Our soldiers and some of our allies (like the Poles) as the only honest men and women to be found there, and their guns speak truth to bullsh*t...

Posted by M. Murcek">M. Murcek 2007-09-11 10:59|| 2007-09-11 10:59|| Front Page Top

#3 It's important to remember that karzai is every bit as much the lying little sh*t as the talibunnies.

Which was my very first point.

There are NO indigenous honest brokers in the middle east.

Save Israel. But, yes, I can only wonder how long it will take Western politicians to comprehend that there is no such thing as sincere negotiations with Muslims. This one fact should be all that is required to bias America towards strictly military solutions without any of this nation-building folderol.

Massive application of force is all that can subdue Islam. We will likely expend another several thousand of our soldiers' lives proving this to ourselves in the MME (Muslim Middle East). How many thousands of citizens here at home that will need to die as well remains open to question. At that point, one last massive application of force will finally put and end to this hideous farce for once and all time.

Posted by Zenster">Zenster 2007-09-11 16:08|| 2007-09-11 16:08|| Front Page Top

#4 Yes, because so many are invested in trying to maintain an artificial "balance" at any cost, the final tipping of the apple cart will be precipitous and violent...

Posted by M. Murcek">M. Murcek 2007-09-11 16:29|| 2007-09-11 16:29|| Front Page Top

#5 Yes, because so many are invested in trying to maintain an artificial "balance" at any cost, the final tipping of the apple cart will be precipitous and violent...

Absolutely spot on, M. Murcek! Far too many Western and Muslim leaders alike have so much political capital invested in maintaining this complete and total farcethat coexistence with Islam is possiblewhereby the collapse of this tottering fabrication will be exceptionally catastrophic.

The IsraeliPalestinian Road Map is a perfect microcosm of the larger picture in how this world deals with Islam. Constant betrayal, deceit and mass-murder are our rewards for giving Islam even a shred of legitimacy.

Posted by Zenster">Zenster 2007-09-11 16:38|| 2007-09-11 16:38|| Front Page Top

#6 I remember reading a freelance reporter seeing battles between the Taliban and other forces. Someone would get killed on one side or the other and they would call a truce for a hour or so to have the body removed so it could be buried i/a/w Muslim practices. Then they would get going again.

These people are tribal. They make deals. We in the west are interested in Afghanistan because it became a fertile ground for terrorist ops and training. Taking on a social transformation project is a hell of an undertaking (pun intended). What we really want to do is to prevent terrorists like Binny and his ilk from setting up shop here. Karzai is probably the best they have, but we are still dealing with tribal values and hagglers. And we are suprized by the results?

Posted by Alaska Paul">Alaska Paul 2007-09-11 19:15|| 2007-09-11 19:15|| Front Page Top

#7 We manage to deal with tribes all over the southwest. We can do it in the equally inhospitable Afghanistan. Maybe we can teach them how to run cas inos.

Posted by Nimble Spemble 2007-09-11 19:20|| 2007-09-11 19:20|| Front Page Top

#8 We manage to deal with tribes all over the southwest.

Many of whom no longer cause the least bit of trouble, or even consume oxygen.

Posted by Zenster">Zenster 2007-09-11 19:52|| 2007-09-11 19:52|| Front Page Top

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