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2007-08-15 -Signs, Portents, and the Weather-

Orangutans threatened; habitat destroyed for bio-fuels

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Posted by lotp 2007-08-15 00:00|| || Front Page|| [4 views ] Top

#1 Bio-fuels are causing an ecological disaster in SE Asia. Truly enormous areas of forest are being clear cut and burned.

Posted by phil_b 2007-08-15 03:01|| 2007-08-15 03:01|| Front Page Top

#2 Oh, no, not CLYDE!

Posted by JosephMendiola 2007-08-15 04:55|| 2007-08-15 04:55|| Front Page Top

#3 Philo Beddoe: Right turn, Clyde.

Cholla: The very first thing we do is find out who we're talking about. I mean, we don't even know where to find him.
Elmo: How are we gonna find him?
Cholla: Well it appears to me that there can't be too many guys driving around this valley with an ape.

Posted by anonymous5089 2007-08-15 05:00|| 2007-08-15 05:00|| Front Page Top

#4 Biofuels, why do they hate us?

Posted by no mo uro 2007-08-15 05:23|| 2007-08-15 05:23|| Front Page Top

#5 An another, wildly OT, but I like it :

Wyoming Trooper: Son, you are a walking violation of the laws of nature, but we don't enforce them laws.

Posted by anonymous5089 2007-08-15 05:27|| 2007-08-15 05:27|| Front Page Top

#6 Bio-diesel, ethanol, etc. all *sound* good to the enviros, but the "law of unintended consequences" kicks in hard, like this one. I'm no die-hard enviro, but I love the great outdoors and want to keep some of it in place.

All the more reason to look hard at nuclear and natural gas for electric needs (natural gas could be used for transportation too), instead of all the latest "enviro fads", which are looking for a single magic bullet for all our energy needs. Much like electric cars, no one (except engineers, mostly) look at the big picture of "Where will we get the extra electricity from and what to do with all the spent batteries?" Ethanol and other bio-fuels wreak havoc on the water side of the environment (corn is one of the most water and fertilizer intense "fuels" of all), while also threatening "the poor" on the food supply side. Why no one looks at answers we ALREADY have is beyond me. Nuke/Nat'l Gas for electric needs, drill for our OWN oil (ANWR and oil shale in the west), put up wind farms off Nantucket, and all the while, continue research into other "alternative fuels," but we MUST look at the "big picture" effects of those fuels too.

Posted by BA 2007-08-15 08:28|| 2007-08-15 08:28|| Front Page Top

#7 Biofuels are turning into the boondoggle of our time. This shit is going to end up creating 10X the impact of just using oil.

Posted by bigjim-ky 2007-08-15 08:36|| 2007-08-15 08:36|| Front Page Top

#8 What hath Al Gore wrought?

Posted by doc 2007-08-15 08:57|| 2007-08-15 08:57|| Front Page Top

#9 Last election Washington State voted to require utilites to produce more 'eco-friendly' energy, and hydro electic power doesn't count. so right now a big wind farm project is held up because somefolks don't want to look out THEIR windows and see those big turbines. I guess that liberal rules comment above applies.....

Posted by USN, Ret. 2007-08-15 14:58|| 2007-08-15 14:58|| Front Page Top

#10 Orangutans as biofuel? Who knew they were even flammable?

Posted by SteveS 2007-08-15 21:49|| 2007-08-15 21:49|| Front Page Top

#11 The biggest wind power project in Australia has just been canned. Even with massive subsidies it was never going to make money.

Posted by phil_b 2007-08-15 21:58|| 2007-08-15 21:58|| Front Page Top

#12 Even with massive subsidies it was never going to make money.

That's a funny way to put it, phil_b. ;-)

Posted by twobyfour 2007-08-15 22:02|| 2007-08-15 22:02|| Front Page Top

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