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2007-07-08 Olde Tyme Religion
Why: Most suicide bombers are Muslim
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Posted by 3dc 2007-07-08 02:25|| || Front Page|| [2 views ]  Top

#1 It is the combination of polygyny and the promise of a large harem of virgins in heaven that motivates many young Muslim men to commit suicide bombings.

Nice try and not without some merit. However, I'd give more creedence to Phyllis Chesler's theory as it relates to rampant child sexual abuse in Muslim cultures.
According to Minnesota based psychoanalyst and Arabist, Dr. Nancy Kobrin, it is a culture in which shame and honor play decisive roles and in which the debasement of women is paramount. In an utterly fascinating and as-yet unpublished book, which I will be introducing, the Sheik's New Clothes: the Psychoanalytic Roots of Islamic Suicide Terrorism, Kobrin, and her Israeli co-author, counter-terrorism expert Yoram Schweitzer, describe barbarous family and clan dynamics in which children, both boys and girls, are routinely orally and anally raped by male relatives; infant males are sometimes sadistically over-stimulated by being masturbated; boys between the ages of 7-12 are publicly and traumatically circumcised; many girls are clitoridectomized; and women are seen as the source of all shame and dishonor and treated accordingly: very, very badly.

According to Dr. Kobrin, "The little girl lives her life under a communal death threat--the honor killing." Both male and female infants and children are brought up by mothers (who are debased and traumatized women). As such, all children are forever psychologically "contaminated" by the humiliated yet all-powerful mother. Arab and Muslim boys must disassociate themselves from her in spectacularly savage ways. But, on a deep unconscious level, they may also wish to remain merged with the source of contamination--a conflict that suicide bombers both act out and resolve when they manfully kill but also merge their blood eternally with that of their presumably most hated enemies, the Israeli Jews. In Kobrin's view, the Israeli Jews may actually function as substitutes or scapegoats for an even more primal, hated/loved enemy: Woman.

Posted by Zenster">Zenster  2007-07-08 04:42||   2007-07-08 04:42|| Front Page Top

#2 Why no Mormon suicide boomers, then?
Posted by gromgoru 2007-07-08 04:54||   2007-07-08 04:54|| Front Page Top

#3 Un-informed article. The largest known group of suicide bombers remains the Jap Kamikaze. At 220 plus, Sri Lanka Tamil Elan bombers topped Arab and Persian numbers until 2003.

I would worry most about Hindus. The belief in re-incarnation lightens death worries for non-Brahmans.

Polygamy produces human-bombs? Damn, and I was going to visit Utah.
Posted by McZoid 2007-07-08 04:59||   2007-07-08 04:59|| Front Page Top

#4 I would worry most about Hindus. The belief in re-incarnation lightens death worries for non-Brahmans.

It's karma, baby, that gives it a substantial impediment. What good it would do to you to be reborn as an ant?
Posted by twobyfour 2007-07-08 05:20||   2007-07-08 05:20|| Front Page Top

#5 1/ There have been women suicide bombers.
2/ Some of the suicide bombers are married.

My own analysis leads me to believe that koran followers have
1/ The death cult.
2/ Smashed superiority complex.

This leads them to try and remove the evidence of the fact that following the koran leads to a shithole, not paradise and the death cult element leads them to remove themselves from reality at the same time.
Posted by Bright Pebbles 2007-07-08 07:46||   2007-07-08 07:46|| Front Page Top

#6 If this is true, we should look for increasing suicide bombers among Chinese and Indian youths as there has been a lot of female infanticide. Not that I'm holding my breath.
Posted by Nimble Spemble 2007-07-08 08:20||   2007-07-08 08:20|| Front Page Top

#7 So they're f*cked in the head.

Who didn't know that?
Posted by bigjim-ky 2007-07-08 09:20||   2007-07-08 09:20|| Front Page Top

#8 This article is nonsense. They are doing it because they actually believe what it in the Koran.
Posted by Ol Dirty American 2007-07-08 09:37||   2007-07-08 09:37|| Front Page Top

#9 It has a lot to do with sex, or, in this case, the absence of sex.

Horniness causes boom booms. I don't buy that. Too Freudian and too much of a psychobabble expalnation.

Islamic religion fuels the suicide bombers. We have snake-handlers in the South. They seize upon a particular passage in the Bible and that becomes a very important part of their beliefs.
Posted by JohnQC 2007-07-08 09:45||   2007-07-08 09:45|| Front Page Top

#10 Remember also that what they believe is mostly from the commentaries on the Koran, not on the Koran proper. That is where most older religions get their really impressive distortions.
Posted by Anonymoose 2007-07-08 10:00||   2007-07-08 10:00|| Front Page Top

#11 Salt has been pretty good today!
Posted by 3dc 2007-07-08 11:07||   2007-07-08 11:07|| Front Page Top

#12 There are large numbers of men in every society who don't get laid, and it doesn't cause them to explode. In fact most of them have successful careers as car salesmen and estate agents, not jihadists.
Posted by Lumpy Uneating5303 2007-07-08 11:09||   2007-07-08 11:09|| Front Page Top

#13 Strange. The Qur’an is the only religious book, on the face of this earth, that contains the phrase ‘marry only one’. SOURCE See item 2.
Posted by GK 2007-07-08 12:09||   2007-07-08 12:09|| Front Page Top

#14 If this article were true then I'd think there would be lots of China-men blowing themselves up.

Second, not to defend any tripe in the koran, but I think a lot of the clitoral circumsicions/pre-adolescent sexual abuse are the result of F8cked up tribal mores that predate 632 a.d. and were infused or joined to the muslim faith. One of the officers I worked w/who was born a muslim (also a female & no longer a muslim) made this claim to me about the only requirement being that women cover their breasts and dress modestly; was the result of subsequent religious headmen delivering fatwas that they actually do not have the authority to deliver. Her family left islam upon immigration to the states for the obvious reasons.

IMHO, islam is one bad variable, but couple that w/the tribal nature of the bedouin arab or supersticious african societies and you get a veritable molotov cocktail. I wonder if those that convert to islam in the west take on any sort of these beliefs or mores wrt clitoral circumsicion, etc. I.E. - I never hear of black converts doing this to their daughters - maybe something to look into.
Posted by Broadhead6 2007-07-08 12:32||   2007-07-08 12:32|| Front Page Top

#15 Im being followed by a Boom shadow,
Boom shadow, Boom shadow...
Posted by Jusuf Islam 2007-07-08 12:44||   2007-07-08 12:44|| Front Page Top

#16 the Quran's (4.3)words on multiple marriageare:

"And if you fear that you cannot act equitably towards orphans, then marry such women as seem good to you, two and three and four; but if you fear that you will not do justice (between them), then (marry) only one or what your right hands possess; this is more proper, that you may not deviate from the right course. "

Moslem apologists typically pull a dowd and say "marry only one" when speaking to ignorant infidels.

In fact, if it actually meant "only one" a huge number of hadiths would demonstrate anti quranic behavior and many mid level officials of the later caliphate and many minor tribal sheik of the current era would be guilty of violating the law

also note the phrase, "what your right hand possesses" - that means woman captured after their husbands and fathers were slaughtered.

Posted by mhw 2007-07-08 12:55||   2007-07-08 12:55|| Front Page Top

#17 Two comments:
This is what Feynman meant when he was talking about Cargo Cult Science.

In my opinion, a few hookers is what these societies need. That's why those AMP girls in Pakistan are so important.
Posted by Penguin 2007-07-08 13:01||   2007-07-08 13:01|| Front Page Top

#18 I never hear of black converts doing this to their daughters - maybe something to look into.

While you're probably referring to American blacks, FGM (Female Genital Mutilation) is still practiced in a conspicuously large proportion of Islamic African cultures.
Posted by Zenster">Zenster  2007-07-08 14:17||   2007-07-08 14:17|| Front Page Top

#19 Actually, polygamy is not as important as the requirement that you be established in your career and community before you can marry.

This means having your own house and business. Real standards of living have been going down in the Muslim world for several decades, which means you have to wait longer and longer to get married.

If you combine that with no contact with unrelated women, you get an epidemic of Blue Balls. Death begins to look less terrible every day.

Al
Posted by Frozen Al 2007-07-08 14:17||   2007-07-08 14:17|| Front Page Top

#20 #16, Thanks for reminding me MHW. A friend in Riyadh told me about the four wives and I have read Sura 4.2 before. Temporary amnesia let me get sucked into the ‘marry only one’ bs.
I was really just researching the difference between polygyny and polygamy.
Posted by GK 2007-07-08 15:07||   2007-07-08 15:07|| Front Page Top

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