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2007-06-01 Home Front: WoT

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Posted by ryuge 2007-06-01 06:39|| || Front Page|| [4 views ] Top

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Kokesh said he holds no ill will toward the Marines. "I love the Marine Corps," he said. "I always have loved the Marine Corps, and that is why I'm particularly offended to see it being used for political ends."

Then why'd you do it?

It sounds to me like he got caught looting (bringing back that pistol) and is pissed over that.

Posted by Rob Crawford">Rob Crawford 2007-06-01 07:40|| http://www.kloognome.com/]">[http://www.kloognome.com/] 2007-06-01 07:40|| Front Page Top

#2 The rules have been pretty clear for a long time. That is, anyone can wear military uniforms as long as their have no insignia, have just the "US Army" tag, etc., *or* insignia with no "US Army" tag.

Variances were liberally permitted. That is, decorated combat veterans could wear their complete uniform or jacket alone, with all of the above, to indicate their status, and they are "hands off" because of that status.

(I saw a Major get reamed for ragging on a VERY decorated Vietnam Vet he got huffy about, when he saw him teaching a class while wearing a field jacket.)

The primary reason for allowing civilians to wear an undecorated military uniform was because a huge number of such uniforms were sold off as surplus.

Therefore, the law is pretty much on the side of these protesters. If they got in trouble, it should only be for disturbing the peace, if their patrolling in public created such a disturbance.

Posted by Anonymoose 2007-06-01 09:06|| 2007-06-01 09:06|| Front Page Top

#3 If a vet doesn't have a right to protest war, who does?

Posted by gromgoru 2007-06-01 15:56|| 2007-06-01 15:56|| Front Page Top

#4 Youre confusing some of be basics here. One, the lad was still under contract and not yet discharged. He may have been a veteran of Iraq, but he wasnt yet a veteran of the service. Therefore as demonstrated, still subject to the UCMJ. Two, there is a standing military rule about not appearing in uniform in a political environment for partisan purposes. Three, the uniform is the blouse, pants, coat, etc all the other doodads are accouterments. If he had just worn the accouterments, hed probably be ok, unless he pinned on unauthorized decorations. He didnt. He got it backwards. Probably from a s**t house lawyer. The old saying applies. If youre a lightning rod, youd better expect to be hit by lightning.

And Moose, the law, Title 10 is clear about the uniform. Its just like the speed limit. Most of the time its not enforced within variance. However, if you get hammered by it, you really cant defend yourself by saying everyone else is doing it.

Posted by Procopius2k 2007-06-01 16:19|| 2007-06-01 16:19|| Front Page Top

#5 He's not being prosecuted for protesting, he's being prosecuted for wearing his uniform. That rule is very clear to any one serving in the military and he chose to disregard it while still on active duty reserve. Too bad, so sad. I hope he is dihonorably discharged.

Posted by Angaiger Tojo1904 2007-06-01 16:21|| 2007-06-01 16:21|| Front Page Top

#6 yeah, like Procopius2k said :-)

Posted by Angaiger Tojo1904 2007-06-01 16:22|| 2007-06-01 16:22|| Front Page Top

#7 There are rules about wearing the uniform after being discharged or transferring to the IRR. If Kokesh violated those rules, he's open to prosecution. I only wish the biggest a$$hole that ever did this had been prosecuted - one john f(#$$%$^%%) kerry, senior dipsh$$.

Posted by Old Patriot">Old Patriot 2007-06-01 21:51|| http://oldpatriot.blogspot.com/]">[http://oldpatriot.blogspot.com/] 2007-06-01 21:51|| Front Page Top

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