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2007-05-24 Iraq

Petraeus says: "Iran deeply involved in Iraq"

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Posted by 0369_Grunt 2007-05-24 10:47|| || Front Page|| [1 views ] Top

#1 I wish I felt that these continuing revelations of Iranian involvement will make a difference - but i just don't see it. The Dems and MSM will make sure to obscure it under a fog of FUD, and the public will contiue to collectively yawn.

Posted by xbalanke 2007-05-24 12:33|| 2007-05-24 12:33|| Front Page Top

#2 ^%$!#@#$ W! Get the bombers in the air fer cryin' outloud. What the heck are we doin? This is pathetic. We need to ratchet up the pain index bigtime. Complete 3D blockade to the best of our capabilities....air, land and sea. Nothing goes in..nothing goes out. Then we need to see some oil facilities start having some "work accidents". Bombers at failsafe 24/7. No more pussyfootin'!!

Posted by Rex Mundi 2007-05-24 12:36|| 2007-05-24 12:36|| Front Page Top

#3 They (Iran) dont want us to succeed, certainly,

Many other groups likewise don't want Iraq to succeed - Russia, Democrat party, China, Third World Dictators (pick one). Others are conflicted (Europe, Gulf states), but won't do much either way. That pretty much leaves just a fraction of the Anglosphere on the side of the Iraqi people and (so far) willing to do anything about it. Sad.

Posted by MoonbatOne">MoonbatOne 2007-05-24 12:53|| 2007-05-24 12:53|| Front Page Top

#4 And thus is why Iraq will never be winnable while the Iranians and Syrians are left standing.

Posted by DarthVader">DarthVader 2007-05-24 13:40|| 2007-05-24 13:40|| Front Page Top

#5 Petraeus says: "Iran deeply involved in Iraq"

Which is why Iran needs to be immersed very "deeply" in shit.

We need to ratchet up the pain index bigtime.

Rex, this a change in strategy that needs to be implemented wherever America and the West encounter Muslims in general, be it abroad or domestically.

Posted by Zenster">Zenster 2007-05-24 14:20|| 2007-05-24 14:20|| Front Page Top

#6 "Forward Brave Lions of Islam!"

...sent via my Blackberry handheld wireless device in a cave in Iran.

Posted by Moqtada al-Sadr 2007-05-24 15:28|| 2007-05-24 15:28|| Front Page Top

#7 Spot on, Zenster.

Posted by Rex Mundi 2007-05-24 19:06|| 2007-05-24 19:06|| Front Page Top

#8 I dont think we have anything that shows that Sadr approved it [or] was involved in it.

Please. General, ever heard the phrase "good enough for government work"?

Glad he's been having an interesting show-and-tell with Maliki, but what are the chances that our hit teams are actually out there taking it to the "special cells"? Of all the things that the Iraq effort has lacked since 2004, dead enemy is the most important. There've been a lot, but not nearly enough.

I don't really care how many toes need to be crushed, not just stepped on. If killing (that would be killing, ya know, kinetic action, non-non-military solution) somebody upsets their brother in law, who's a distant cousin of Maliki's maid, we don't give a f**k. Kill him. And anybody standing near him at the time. I don't care if it hinders our relationship with IA or IP in a given spot - kill him. None of the short-term problems caused by fighting the war will amount to anything compared to the payoff from killing the enemy.

And if the Quds force isn't "running around" in Iraq, then why can't Quds force barracks and offices vaporize in Iran? I believe there is something called the B-2, and something called the JDAM, and something called "no comment" from US spokesmen.

I'm completely serious, and this is not the raving of armchair strategist who doesn't understand the "subtleties" of the situation. The fact that deniable yet incredibly in-your-face killing of Quds and intel and whatever inside Iran has not taken place is an astounding indictment of both the civilian and military leadership. They're not half as clever as they imagine. You don't win wars with cleverness. We are infinitely more powerful than the enemy - NOT infinitely smarter or more clever. Finesse has become an obsession that has clouded minds into forgetting the basics of armed conflict.

Infuriating. Of course it was already infuriating long ago, back in the days of magic non-military solutions and Sunni engagement and handing over to Iraqis who couldn't get their payrolls to the troops. Back then this "staggering" Iranian role was no secret, either. What's "staggering" is the US response, then and now.

Posted by Verlaine 2007-05-24 19:09|| 2007-05-24 19:09|| Front Page Top

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