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2007-03-17 Fifth Column
U.S. Israel lobby targets Jihad al-Bina
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Posted by ryuge 2007-03-17 08:02|| || Front Page|| [8 views since 2007-05-07]  Top

#1 So now, Ranburg became a forum for Muzi propoganda?
Posted by gromgoru 2007-03-17 08:26||   2007-03-17 08:26|| Front Page Top

#2 Had it been posted on DemocraticUnderground, MoveOn.org or DailyKos, it would indeed have been posted on a "forum for Muzi propoganda".

Here, it's data on what the enemy are saying.

Sometimes your constant kvetching is a real annoyance, gromgoru. You're among allies here; there's no need to act like a smacked ass.

Posted by Dave D.">Dave D.  2007-03-17 11:25||   2007-03-17 11:25|| Front Page Top

#3 gromgoru, go for a run or something. You sound like me when I'm feeling waspish (in the stinging insect sense).
Posted by trailing wife 2007-03-17 11:36||   2007-03-17 11:36|| Front Page Top

#4 U.S. Ambassador to Lebanon, Jeffrey Feltman, who favored putting Jihad al-Bina on the Bush administration 'terrorism list,' owes an apology to the American people as well as to the people of Lebanon.

Nah, don't bother Jeff. We agree with you.
Posted by SteveS 2007-03-17 12:16||   2007-03-17 12:16|| Front Page Top

#5 Yes, gromgoru, I know full well that this is pure anti-Israeli propaganda and am squeamish about posting it - which is why I didn't waste Fred's bandwidth on the text, and I filed it under "Fifth Column". I just figure that people on our side in the war might want to know what the Arabs and Muslims are hearing, especially in the domestic press. This way when we hear the arguments of people influenced by this propaganda, we are ready with a response, maybe even thought out a few moves ahead. Nothing irks me more than debating such important issues in front of others who might be persuaded, and then making our side look flimsy because I'm not prepared to make a good response. But I do understand your displeasure at reading this sort of article. Believe me.
Posted by ryuge 2007-03-17 17:29||   2007-03-17 17:29|| Front Page Top

#6 Next time I'll make sure to try to think of a sarcastic headline. I'm not always as funny as some of the crack headline team here, but I'll try.
Posted by ryuge 2007-03-17 17:39||   2007-03-17 17:39|| Front Page Top

#7 gromgoru can't help sticking it to the USA and Rantburg, you see he's a graduate of a palestinian finishing skool.
Posted by RD 2007-03-17 18:04||   2007-03-17 18:04|| Front Page Top

#8 Not always RD. Sometimes I've moments of clarity, when I remember that it's the Martians who keep the House of Saud in power. It's the Venusians who keep India from stamping Pakistan flat. It's the Mercurians who bombed the shit out of Serbia for defending itself against Jihad. It's the Jovians who betrayed the Shah. It's the Saturnians who impose the "peace process" on Israel.
Posted by gromgoru 2007-03-17 21:08||   2007-03-17 21:08|| Front Page Top

#9 IMHO - Grom - the message is "who's your buddy?"

On RB, I'll guess I'm Israel's best friend and the rest are tied with me. We ARE your best friend without a doubt in American blogs - LGF, etc. may tie, but you will find no stronger friend outside Israel. You need to remember that we are open to criticism, but complaining about enough support is falling on the wrong ears here
Posted by Frank G">Frank G  2007-03-17 21:30||   2007-03-17 21:30|| Front Page Top

#10 Let me put it this way. If you people find my comment to ryuge post offensive, then maybe --- just maybe --- you should spend some time in self reflection.
Let me give you a hint, it's not Gentiles' place to decide whether the State of Israel has a right to exist.
Posted by gromgoru 2007-03-17 22:16||   2007-03-17 22:16|| Front Page Top

#11 Ima think you don't need to bitch at your friends grom, and you are among them here.
Posted by Shipman 2007-03-17 22:16||   2007-03-17 22:16|| Front Page Top

#12 Gromgoru, why do you listen to the US? Do what you need to do and stop looking for an out.
Posted by Shipman 2007-03-17 22:18||   2007-03-17 22:18|| Front Page Top

#13 we're your friends grom, just remember.
Posted by RD 2007-03-17 22:38||   2007-03-17 22:38|| Front Page Top

#14 "Let me put it this way. If you people find my comment to ryuge post offensive, then maybe --- just maybe --- you should spend some time in self reflection."

It wasn't "offensive"-- merely stupid. And adolescent. Ryuge posted an article of the "See what the enemy is saying" genre, just like thousands of other articles here; and you responded like a pouting 13-year-old, whining about Rantburg becoming "a forum for Muzi propoganda".

"Let me give you a hint, it's not Gentiles' place to decide whether the State of Israel has a right to exist."

What the fuck??? No one on Rantburg is presuming to "decide" whether Israel has a right to exist-- and anyone who voices the opinion that it does not, doesn't last long here. Have you not noticed that???

If you're not satisfied with the level of support for Israel you see here on this website, then get the fuck out of here and go find a better one.

Posted by Dave D.">Dave D.  2007-03-17 22:50||   2007-03-17 22:50|| Front Page Top

#15 Let me give you a hint, it's not Gentiles' place to decide whether the State of Israel has a right to exist.

Let me return the hint: there isn't any 'right' to exist. States either exist or they don't. There are peoples (e.g., the Kurds) who a reasonable person might think 'deserve' a state, yet don't have one. There are people who have a state who seem hell bent on throwing it away (e.g., too many to count).

Israel doesn't have a 'right' to exist. It exists. We in the U.S. mainly would like to see that continue.
Posted by Steve White">Steve White  2007-03-17 23:03||   2007-03-17 23:03|| Front Page Top

#16 well...that wasn't a very good hint of support for Isral, now was it, Grom? Jeebus. Wake up and smell the coffee!
Posted by Frank G">Frank G  2007-03-17 23:25||   2007-03-17 23:25|| Front Page Top

#17 or even Israel! PIMF....sh*t
Posted by Frank G">Frank G  2007-03-17 23:25||   2007-03-17 23:25|| Front Page Top

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