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2007-02-15 Home Front: WoT

Guard presence drops illegal crossing 62%

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Posted by Jackal 2007-02-15 08:51|| || Front Page|| [6 views since 2007-05-07] Top

#1 UUUUMMMMM, a drop in "Aprehensions' does not necessarily mean a drop in crossings, it only means fewer are caught.

Posted by Redneck Jim 2007-02-15 09:00|| 2007-02-15 09:00|| Front Page Top

#2 With all due respect for N. Guard on the border, Redneck Jim is absolutely correct. The Apprehension statistic is simply a single correlation determinate. Furthermore, it is impossible to make any conclusions of trends based on a single year sample. However, this statistic taken at face value actually indicates just the opposite of the intended purpose of the Guards support role. We were told they are there to free up border patrol from routine duties touhemmallow them to make more apprehensions not less. And remember, Homeland Security always uses increased apprehensions as an indicator of success. Of course, thats somewhat dubious as well because of the all the other factors that may or may not contribute to success or failure. Bottom line, more boots and eyes on the ground cant hurt but without clearly defined rules of engagement the funding for the Guards limited role arguably could be better spent. This article is another example of how the immigration phenomena is presented in a fashion to change perception yet its based speculation and yes Bullshit.

Posted by DepotGuy 2007-02-15 10:16|| 2007-02-15 10:16|| Front Page Top

#3 Apropos of this story, and recalling the story of the two Border Patrol agents who are now incarcerated...

If Bill Clinton was said to be America's "First Black President", will GWB be known as America's "First Mexican President"?

Posted by eLarson 2007-02-15 10:37|| http://larsonian.blogspot.com]">[http://larsonian.blogspot.com] 2007-02-15 10:37|| Front Page Top

#4 "To truly gain operational control of the border to stop unauthorized immigration in the way people speak about will resemble a major military operation in cost and size of undertaking." -- how is that a problem? We're at war anyway.
Tried to find links but failed. Reports several months old indicate the Border Patrol has cut back on the timeliness of its reports of apprehensions of illegal immigrants.
Today another rock-throwing incident on the EL Paso border followed by a BP shooting at someone. See here.

Posted by Anguper Hupomosing9418 2007-02-15 10:41|| 2007-02-15 10:41|| Front Page Top

#5 There may be a glimmer of truth here for an odd combination of reasons.

First of all, illegal immigration is very publicity driven. That is, many of the illegals are not from the border area and know only what they hear in the news and gossip about it, and how easy it is to cross. If it sounds harder, fewer of them will try to cross.

For its part, every time the Mexican government bitches about US restrictions on illegals, it gets lots of attention in the Mexican media.

Second, the typical Mexican is terrified of their army, which translates to fear of soldiers in general. They are afraid of the US National Guard, because they probably think that they would treat them like the Mexican army, that is, shoot them and bury them in an shallow grave for no particular reason.

Third, it is cold as hell in that desert right now.

Posted by Anonymoose 2007-02-15 11:24|| 2007-02-15 11:24|| Front Page Top

#6 Landmines work even better.

Posted by Icerigger 2007-02-15 13:27|| 2007-02-15 13:27|| Front Page Top

#7 Arm the National Guard and give them orders to shoot and you will see illegal crossings disappear.

Posted by JohnQC 2007-02-15 15:12|| 2007-02-15 15:12|| Front Page Top

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