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2007-02-13 Home Front: Culture Wars
ACLU debates Minutemen in NM
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Posted by Anguper Hupomosing9418 2007-02-13 06:59|| || Front Page|| [3 views since 2007-05-07]  Top

#1 I am a firm believer that illegal immigration from Mexico needs to be pragmatically split into two different solutions, with Mexicans treated differently from other nationalities.

As far as the Mexicans go, no matter what happens in the near future, eventually the problem will solve itself, as the birthrate in Mexico has dropped to about 2.3 children per family. This means that the huge influx of illegals *has* to go down, even if we do nothing.

Of course, if we do *anything*, we should erect a wall, because this gives us the greatest "bang for the buck", and may reduce the number of Mexicans entering the US by 80-90%; far more cost effective than any other solution.

Other solutions will be much more costly and achieve far less per capita, in reducing the remaining 10-20% of illegals getting in, so it's hard to tell what would be the best secondary plan for further reductions.

But that brings up the other problem: that it is virtually impossible to keep out a determined few non-Mexicans trying to sneak across that border. Non-Mexicans like Muslim terrorists.

Unless we have the help of Mexicans.

I propose that because it is so vital that we prevent *any* terrorists from crossing our southern border, that the most effective thing we can do is to pay a bounty to Mexicans to stop them.

No non-Mexican, and I mean zero, is going to get across that border with 300,000 hungry Mexicans watching it, hoping to get a bounty and win the lottery for calling it in to ICE.

And it would be "dirt cheap".

We pass out leaflets south of the border, advertising the deal. From $500 to $10,000 for ratting out any non-Mexican who tries to illegally cross. Just call this number, give them a description of the non-Mexican, when and where he is crossing, and you will be given a code number redeemable for cash.

South of the border, it would be "lottery fever", as even $500 cash looks like a huge fortune. Even mules paid a fortune to smuggle a non-Mexican would take their money, then rat them out for more money.

So even if 100,000 Mexicans crossed, that one non-Mexican, who just might be a terrorist bomber, couldn't make it safely into the US if he had a suitcase full of cash.

Two different problems, two different solutions.
Posted by Anonymoose 2007-02-13 09:31||   2007-02-13 09:31|| Front Page Top

#2 News for you Moose. The ruling patron families in Mexico have no interest in the security of the US. They have no interest in millions of their own people who are unemployed. An unemployment made possible by the fundamentally corrupt political structure that is Mexico. It is in the self interest of that cabal of families to dump as many of those peons on to the US in order to avoid reform and the expected dissipation of their power and privilege. There is no motivation for one bit of change on the part of the patron hierarchy.
Posted by Procopius2k 2007-02-13 09:45||   2007-02-13 09:45|| Front Page Top

#3 Make it $100K - the peasants will revolt.
Posted by anonymous2u 2007-02-13 12:35||   2007-02-13 12:35|| Front Page Top

#4 Procopius2k: I agree with you. However, it is a purely numbers game. Once their population growth stabilized, any economic growth will have to come with higher wages. Though the wealthy families don't want to pay higher wages, it will either be that or not have enough employees.

And higher wages also acts to reduce the number of illegals to the US.

Right now, Mexico hovers around a 3-6% annual growth rate. That really puts the squeeze on labor.

Ironically, because of the pressing need for skilled and white collar labor, Mexican big business might have to start importing Americans.
Posted by Anonymoose 2007-02-13 14:00||   2007-02-13 14:00|| Front Page Top

#5 MM: Shoot first, debate after
Posted by Captain America 2007-02-13 18:33||   2007-02-13 18:33|| Front Page Top

#6 Though the wealthy families don't want to pay higher wages, it will either be that or not have enough employees.

They'll look at the third option: Guatemalans.
Posted by Pappy 2007-02-13 21:28||   2007-02-13 21:28|| Front Page Top

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