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2007-02-11 Olde Tyme Religion

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Posted by ryuge 2007-02-11 07:00|| || Front Page|| [5 views since 2007-05-07] Top

#1 The challenge Islam poses to the West goes beyond mere terrorism.

This should have been obvious even if the jihadis never attacked the West. This is a cult of child-rape from their demon-possessed "prophet" to the gang-rapists at Beslan. They oppose every notion of liberty from Christ's teachings to Magna Carta to the Enlightenment to the American Revolution. There can be no compromise.

Posted by Excalibur 2007-02-11 09:16|| 2007-02-11 09:16|| Front Page Top

#2 "As Gartenstein-Ross explains, Islam has commandments for every aspect of life, from how to dress to how to wipe yourself after going to the bathroom. And once he joined the Muslim community, he found that the group was self-policing. Members were eager to report and reprimand one another for infractions. It is not hard to imagine how a well-adjusted, intelligent person might get caught up in such a social dynamic."

Say WHAT???? Speaking only for myself, of course, but I find it EXTREMELY hard to imagine any well-adjusted person falling for that shit. A person who is morally lost, yes. Or rootless, or confused, or spiritually adrift. But "well-adjusted"?

The explanation, I think, is here:

"Gartenstein-Ross grew up in Ashland, Ore., one of the West Coast's hippie enclaves. His parents were liberal, ecumenical Jews who raised him to believe in the beauty of all faiths. There were pictures of Jesus in his living room and a statue of the Buddha in the backyard."

In other words, they raised him to be morally lost, rootless, confused, and spiritually adrift in that vast sea of hippie, "everything is beautiful in its own way" non-judgementalism.

It's no wonder he fell into the grasp of Islam, just as it wouldn't have surprised to see him wind up in the grip of any other cult that could fill the moral vacuum his parents created for him.

And it's a damn miracle he eventually wised up.

Posted by Dave D.">Dave D. 2007-02-11 10:03|| 2007-02-11 10:03|| Front Page Top

#3 The kind of person that could have easily ended up at Jonestown drinking the purple kool aid.

Posted by JohnQC 2007-02-11 10:06|| 2007-02-11 10:06|| Front Page Top

#4 A troubling look inside radical Islam

Is there any other kind of look inside radical Islam? To paraphrase the bumper sticker: If you're not troubled, you're not paying attention.

Posted by xbalanke 2007-02-11 11:05|| 2007-02-11 11:05|| Front Page Top

#5 It's no wonder he fell into the grasp of Islam, just as it wouldn't have surprised to see him wind up in the grip of any other cult that could fill the moral vacuum his parents created for him

Well said.

IMHO, that is the biggest danger we face in the US. Our cult of self is no less damaging. Want to fight back? Stop reading this and start go to your church or synagogue. We aren't going to win this on the battlefield alone.

Posted by Shineger Unatle5424 2007-02-11 11:29|| 2007-02-11 11:29|| Front Page Top

#6 "Want to fight back? Stop reading this and start go to your church or synagogue."

I don't know if that'll help much, so long as the people running the churches and synagogues are spouting the same kind watered-down, all-faiths-are-beautiful, non-judgemental, cultural relativity claptrap that brought Gartenstein-Ross perilously close to the abyss.

"Fighting back" to me means hounding the "progressive" ideologues out of their positions of influence in government and in our churches, synagogues, universities and public schools.

Get the damn Gramscian commies OUT.

Posted by Dave D.">Dave D. 2007-02-11 12:09|| 2007-02-11 12:09|| Front Page Top

#7 The principal thing troubling me is the West's staunch refusal to understand just what Islam is.

Posted by gromgoru 2007-02-11 13:27|| 2007-02-11 13:27|| Front Page Top

#8 The weekly standard has a commentator, Stephen Schwartz who converted into the Sufi brand of Islam and writes articles critical of the Salafist brand of Islam.

He essentially refuses to acknowledge the arguments of Hirsi, or Ali Sina or Ibn Warraq or Mohammud Khan or Abu Kassem, etc. regarding the authenticity of the Salafist school. However, Schwartz has a pretty good mind and I still have hopes for him.

Posted by mhw 2007-02-11 13:29|| 2007-02-11 13:29|| Front Page Top

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