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2007-01-07 Syria-Lebanon-Iran

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Posted by Sneaze Shaiting3550 & PlanetDan 2007-01-07 00:00|| || Front Page|| [6 views since 2007-05-07] Top

#1 I would investigate the sources and the newspaper to see if they are invested long in oil. Everyone knows the reason for these articles is to fluff the price of oil.

Posted by Penguin 2007-01-07 00:51|| 2007-01-07 00:51|| Front Page Top

#2 Definitely BS. We would only find out about Israel's "plans" after they have been executed. If this was any kind of a leak it was done purposefully - a trial balloon. Done just to gauge everyone's reaction.

Posted by Intrinsicpilot 2007-01-07 01:33|| 2007-01-07 01:33|| Front Page Top

#3 Israelis don't seem to be the kind of folks who would send up a trial baloon let alone signal their punches.

But, hey, keep the hopeful news coming.

Posted by badanov 2007-01-07 01:56|| http://www.freefirezone.org]">[http://www.freefirezone.org] 2007-01-07 01:56|| Front Page Top

Posted by AzCat 2007-01-07 03:22|| 2007-01-07 03:22|| Front Page Top

#5 The most underestimated emotion in Arab politics is humiliation. The Israeli-Arab conflict, for instance, is not just about borders. Israel's mere existence is a daily humiliation to Muslims, who can't understand how, if they have the superior religion, Israel can be so powerful. Al Jazeera's editor, Ahmed Sheikh, said it best when he recently told the Swiss weekly Die Weltwoche: "It gnaws at the people in the Middle East that such a small country as Israel, with only about 7 million inhabitants, can repeadedly defeat the Arab nation with its 350 million. That hurts our collective ego. The Palestinian problem is in the genes of every Arab. The West's problem is that it does not understand this." Israel fully understands and will deal with it on their own timetable and terms. The nuclear option may simply be the warning against Iranian or Syrian retaliation when the hammer does fall, and it will fall.

Posted by Besoeker 2007-01-07 03:26|| 2007-01-07 03:26|| Front Page Top

#6 Israel is not the only country that may have a "Samson option." Perhaps those missiles on the south Iranian coast are targeted on the oil shipping points and oil fields not owned by Iran, not on US military assets. If bombs fall on Iran, bombs may fall around the Persian gulf cutting oil production/export by 40%. The rest of the world would know real pain shortly after. Is your Strategic Petroleum Reserve full?

Posted by Anguper Hupomosing9418 2007-01-07 03:31|| 2007-01-07 03:31|| Front Page Top

#7 AH9418:

An effective first strike would cause Iranian military professionals, who are immune to Ahmadinejad jihad bragging, to turn on the Ayatollahs. I don't forsee attacks on third parties.

Posted by Sneaze Shaiting3550 2007-01-07 03:52|| 2007-01-07 03:52|| Front Page Top

#8 Don't need full reserves if you got theatre missile defense. Thems is mobile soze we can move'em around and protect other peoples stuff two. Like oil and wutnot.

Posted by Mike N. 2007-01-07 03:58|| 2007-01-07 03:58|| Front Page Top

#9 Curious. Iran is unable to come anywhere close to meeting its OPEC production allowables, even at very high world oil prices. Why? Are their fields nearing depletion - or merely unmaintained? Are there no new fields to be found - or are they merely unable to effectively look for them?
Depending on the answer, they may actually have a legitimate reason to develop nuclear energy (though not weapons), and the weapon posturing may be in part designed to solicit technical help from America haters.

Posted by Glenmore">Glenmore 2007-01-07 08:27|| 2007-01-07 08:27|| Front Page Top

#10 Translation: we don't like Jews, but sometimes they can be useful.

Posted by gromgoru 2007-01-07 08:59|| 2007-01-07 08:59|| Front Page Top

#11 Destroying an oil-field or even a shipping point is going to require more than 50's era Soviet theatre missiles.

Posted by Shipman 2007-01-07 09:05|| 2007-01-07 09:05|| Front Page Top

#12 The idea any of this is subject to debate is mind-boggling to me. Iran's nuclear program should have been annihilated with twenty-four hours of the the fall of the WTC towers. Once again it is the Jews who are asked to walk ahead of the rest of the flock and all the sheep following behind blaming them for tempting the wolf.

Posted by Excalibur 2007-01-07 09:25|| 2007-01-07 09:25|| Front Page Top

#13 As an aside, back during the Lebanon thing, the US took the opportunity to give Israel an s-load of bunker busters, far more than they would ever need for their immediate use.

At the time, the Israelis mentioned that they were working on far more improved versions of BBs. And I'm sure that the US is more than willing to share their new "tunneling missile" tech with Israel.

Posted by Anonymoose 2007-01-07 09:25|| 2007-01-07 09:25|| Front Page Top

#14 There are many advantages to signaling the enemy, which is what this well timed "leak" is intended to do.

Kudos to the Mosad and Israeli leadership on this one.

Posted by Captain America 2007-01-07 10:52|| 2007-01-07 10:52|| Front Page Top

#15 Another Really?No Shit? article filled with high drama and conflict. Every nation, even with marginal capabilities, has Secret Plans to blow the shit out of any number of other nations that could be perceived as a possible future threat. (Pssst.the US has secret plans to bomb Pakistan, Saudi, Egypt, Libya, and on and on and on) That doesnt equate to desire or intent. All these plans were drafted years ago and are constantly being revised as situations evolve. Thats what responsible defense departments do and its only prudent. Ill let others speculate on the motivation and timing of this article and its leaked info from anonymous sources but chances are its nothing more then empty bytes for a Sunday Edition.

Posted by DepotGuy 2007-01-07 13:14|| 2007-01-07 13:14|| Front Page Top

#16 The NWT also develops plans and articles for every contingency. It was a slow news day, so they dragged out one of those plans and slapped it on the page of the newspaper in a vain attempt to increase circulation.

Posted by Alaska Paul">Alaska Paul 2007-01-07 14:33|| 2007-01-07 14:33|| Front Page Top

#17 #9 Iran's oil production is going down, forever. Iran is led by insane mass murderers. All things considered, the country should not have nukes.

Posted by Anguper Hupomosing9418 2007-01-07 20:07|| 2007-01-07 20:07|| Front Page Top

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