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2006-12-24 Home Front: WoT
Feds obstructed investigation of Islamic ties to OKC bombing
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Posted by Jackal 2006-12-24 00:00|| || Front Page|| [3 views since 2007-05-07]  Top

#1 How about Congress concentrating their efforts on the FUTURE! McVeigh and his partner were sadly misguided wingnuts. I doubt he would have ever had anything to do with Al Qaida. And no, McVeigh did not design Saddam's mobile biochemical labs either. NEXXXXXXXXXXT !
Posted by Besoeker 2006-12-24 01:07||   2006-12-24 01:07|| Front Page Top

#2 I don't buy an al Quaeda connection with Nichols & McVeigh, but I do agree that there are parts of the story that have been suppressed, and I haven't figured out why. I do find it plausible that there was some kind of collaboration between our domestic nutballs and Muslim - perhaps even Saddamist - nutballs, though certainly nothing has ever been proven. Kind of too bad McVeigh or Nichols couldn't have been remanded to Jordan or Egypt or such for a little questioning, but it would clearly have been illegal and unconstitutional. Neither of those guys were the sharpest knives in the drawer, which makes me wonder if someone was 'running' them.
Posted by Glenmore">Glenmore  2006-12-24 01:35||   2006-12-24 01:35|| Front Page Top

#3 I'm strongly suspicious of conspiracy theories, and given what we face now, focusing on the future rather than the past is a good point. But I read The Third Terrorist years ago, and found it to be disturbingly credible. Davis was a local OKC TV reporter in 1995, one of the first to arrive on the scene (so not an outsider who came along later), and her assertions are meticulously documented. One WND article may not be persuasive, but the whole book certainly is. Read it before you make up your mind!
Posted by exJAG 2006-12-24 01:56||   2006-12-24 01:56|| Front Page Top

#4 excuse my ignorance from the other side of the pond, but wern't these backward nutjob militia types. kkk loving, executive governtment hating neo fascists? Can't really see them welcoming the mad mullahs with open arms.
Posted by pihkalbadger 2006-12-24 09:04||   2006-12-24 09:04|| Front Page Top

#5 they were conservative-talk-radio-listening gun-owning Republicans. Billy Jeff Clinton said so
Posted by Frank G">Frank G  2006-12-24 09:06||   2006-12-24 09:06|| Front Page Top

#6 They were anti-government nutjobs all right, but in that weird space where far left and far right meet, much like European extremists.

This is particularly true of McVeigh, who was a Desert Storm vet and came to feel sorry for the poor Iraqis. Davis reports information that suggests he was working with Iraqi agents of Saddam in OKC. Nichols, on the other hand, just wanted explosives expertise wherever he could get it, and he is alleged to have found it in Ramzi Yousef in the Philippines. Davis reports that phone records show LOTS of suspicious calls supporting this.

However, Davis doesn't claim to have established these connections conclusively; rather, her major beef is that the Clinton administration was so obsessed with cracking down on right-wing extremists (e.g., Waco, Ruby Ridge) that these possibilities were actively ignored. I think it's plausible.
Posted by exJAG 2006-12-24 09:17||   2006-12-24 09:17|| Front Page Top

#7 ...and given what we face now, focusing on the future rather than the past is a good point.

But, isn't our failure to learn and retain the lessons of the past (near & distant) a major contributor to why we find ourselves in such dire straights today?
Posted by Greremp Uleremp6059 2006-12-24 10:54||   2006-12-24 10:54|| Front Page Top

#8 GU6059, yes. More to the point, Davis tracked down a very interesting fact. She traced the steps of Nichols' and McVeigh's Arab associates, and found that the resided for a time at a motel in Norman, OK, in 1995. Turns out it was the same motel where two of the 9/11 hijackers stayed five years later, while attending flight school in Norman, OK.

Quite a coincidence, or they knew each other, raising the possibility that one or more 9/11 cells could have been broken up had the FBI pursued the Arab/Muslim angle, rather than every klucker within a 500-mile radius.
Posted by exJAG 2006-12-24 11:45||   2006-12-24 11:45|| Front Page Top

#9 This was the classic muzzie bombing. Just like Khobar Towers. McVeigh was a dumb f**k who carried out the deed. Nichols is the key. He should be sweated until he squawks. He's the bag man going to Phillipines to meet with muzzies there. I think the Davis woman has documented that Iraqi agents were in Oklahoma City for months before this event. Clinton had to cover this up. He just had the NYC bombing. I think details are well known by FBI, and maybe another reason to go after Saddass.
Posted by SpecOp35 2006-12-24 12:29||   2006-12-24 12:29|| Front Page Top

#10 This has Slick Willy's dirty fingers all over it. That donk asshole was and is too much the coward to take a stand for anything but a Lewinski.
Why would anybody ever vote for a donk again ?
Posted by wxjames 2006-12-24 15:13||   2006-12-24 15:13|| Front Page Top

#11 More to the point, Davis tracked down a very interesting fact.

Oh man. Our Government needs a real house cleaning. Soon, I think.
Posted by Greremp Uleremp6059 2006-12-24 21:07||   2006-12-24 21:07|| Front Page Top

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