Archived material Access restricted Article
Rantburg

Today's Front Page   View All of Tue 12/05/2006 View Mon 12/04/2006 View Sun 12/03/2006 View Sat 12/02/2006 View Fri 12/01/2006 View Thu 11/30/2006 View Wed 11/29/2006
1
2006-12-05 Home Front: Culture Wars
Mixed Emotions At The Oscars....
Archived material is restricted to Rantburg regulars and members. If you need access email fred.pruitt=at=gmail.com with your nick to be added to the members list. There is no charge to join Rantburg as a member.
Posted by Mike Kozlowski 2006-12-05 15:00|| || Front Page|| [4 views since 2007-05-07]  Top

#1 I blame the Olmecs...
Posted by mojo">mojo  2006-12-05 15:31||   2006-12-05 15:31|| Front Page Top

#2 How does the liberal film community handle this?

Hell, if he makes them money, they'll buy him an SS uniform for Christmas...
Posted by tu3031 2006-12-05 15:37||   2006-12-05 15:37|| Front Page Top

#3 Content and substance have nothing to do with it. It's all personal politics - same with all the other phoney awards crappola.

If they don't like it, then I might go see it.
Posted by .com 2006-12-05 15:39||   2006-12-05 15:39|| Front Page Top

#4 ...many people in Hollywood swore — both publicly and privately — that they would not work with him again or see his movies.

Since Mel tends to write, direct, produce and finance his own movies these days, I imagine these folks might find themselves working FOR Mel Gibson.

Posted by Mick Dundee 2006-12-05 15:46||   2006-12-05 15:46|| Front Page Top

#5 There's no dilemma for me, even if I am Jewish.

I've said lots worse when I was drunk. Anyways, the rest of Hollywood puts out bullshit movies. This one I want to see because my interest in Mayan culture was peaked by the History Channel's "Engineering an Empire". (Off topic, but Peter Weller should get an emmy for "Engineering an Empire".
Posted by Penguin 2006-12-05 16:15||   2006-12-05 16:15|| Front Page Top

#6 Re: Engineering an Empire - enthusiastically agree, Penguin.

BTW, the RB definition of a dud thread is no OT comments, lol.
Posted by .com 2006-12-05 16:17||   2006-12-05 16:17|| Front Page Top

#7 I wonder... if he were to say that he'd launched his anti-semitic tirade in solidarity with his Palestinian friends, do you think his Hollywood pals would welcome him back?
Posted by James">James  2006-12-05 16:31|| http://idontknowbut.blogspot.com]">[http://idontknowbut.blogspot.com]  2006-12-05 16:31|| Front Page Top

#8 They'll give it the best foreign language film and chuckle that they ripped him off from getting an actual Oscar. They might even schedule best foreign language film to be an off-camera award this year if they really want to stick it to Mel.

Personally I'd like to see Flags of Our Fathers get a few awards. I liked that film.
Posted by rjschwarz 2006-12-05 16:52||   2006-12-05 16:52|| Front Page Top

#9 A stake to the heart of liberal PC mythology about the noble pastoral peaceful aboriginal American.
Posted by Procopius2K 2006-12-05 17:09||   2006-12-05 17:09|| Front Page Top

#10 "The problem posed by Mr. Gibson touches on an age-old question of whether an artist’s personal behavior ought to be a factor in judging his or her work."

Woody Allen's behavour with his adopted 14 year old daughter didn't become a factor with the intertainment community.

Mel Gibson's drunken remarks are not morally equivalent to Woody Allen's statuary rape of his daughter.

Mel Gibson will always be a target of Hollywood for many reasons because of the success of his Christian film.


Posted by USMC6743 2006-12-05 17:21||   2006-12-05 17:21|| Front Page Top

#11 Mel has issues but I have to admit he's made some amazing films. And will continue to do so.

We will have to post some public reviews.

Heard great things about Peter Weller on the "Channel". Sure hope it comes out on DVD for Christmas?
Posted by Icerigger 2006-12-05 17:30||   2006-12-05 17:30|| Front Page Top

#12 I'm afraid The History Channel thinks their DVD's are stamped on gold disks - damned expensive. Um, do you use torrent tech? ;-)
Posted by .com 2006-12-05 17:32||   2006-12-05 17:32|| Front Page Top

#13 USMC6743 you make a great point but forgot Roman Polanski. Seems even raping a minor wasn't enough for the oscar folks to avoid giving him an award a few years ago.
Posted by rjschwarz 2006-12-05 18:07||   2006-12-05 18:07|| Front Page Top

#14 Interesting comment by one H.D. Miller over at the Brothers Judd's place:

One of the reasons that the Passion was so successful was because Mel figured out (or stumbled into) how to get non-movie goers (i.e. people other than teenaged boys and blue state sophisticates) to go to a movie.

Like the Passion, Apocalypto has a very simple story, is very violent, and is very visual. And in both movies, the dialogue is delivered in an archaic language, something that should kill the movie, but oddly doesn't. Instead the archaic langauges make the movie seem very serious, makes the violence more acceptable because it's supposedly historically acurate.

Hence, for Mexicans and Guatemalans this is going to be a must see movie because it's about their history, and it's not another Anglophone production.

And because of Mel's fidelity to the original language and to using Latino and Indian actors it means that Mexicans can see this movie with a clear conscience, as the lead character is not being played by Jack Black in a dark wig and a silly accent.

So, Mel's probably thinking who cares if the critics like or dislike this movie, it's not intended for the audience that listens to critics, it's intended for an audience that sees themselves in this story.

And, if he's right, he'll have a huge hit on his hands, one that will succeed because he's once again convinced non-traditional movies goers to go to the movies.
Posted by Mike 2006-12-05 20:59||   2006-12-05 20:59|| Front Page Top

23:54 gromgoru
23:47 gromgoru
23:46 gromgoru
23:44 gromgoru
23:44 newc
23:42 JosephMendiola
23:40 gromgoru
23:39 newc
23:34 newc
23:34 gromgoru
23:31 gromgoru
23:30 JosephMendiola
23:30 newc
23:17 3dc
23:13 Old Patriot
23:12 Kalle (kafir forever)
23:11 Mick Dundee
23:02 JosephMendiola
22:56 JosephMendiola
22:54 USN,Ret
22:48 twobyfour
22:46 DMFD
22:21 Zenster
22:19 Glenmore









Paypal:
Google
Search WWW Search rantburg.com