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2006-11-27 Iraq

Despite increased training efforts, Iraqi army still not ready to defend Fallujah alone

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Posted by GolfBravoUSMC 2006-11-27 12:13|| || Front Page|| [3 views since 2007-05-07] Top

#1 How effing depressing. The Pentagon needs to just come out and say the Iraqi Army is untrainable.

They will never overcome the blatant corruption.

Posted by Penguin 2006-11-27 13:55|| 2006-11-27 13:55|| Front Page Top

#2 Can't blame them. The whole Middle East relies on posturing and lies to achieve their ultimate goals. Soldiers usually join armies for 3 reasons: 1) to protect their families and homes. 2.) To make more money 3.) Sense of adventure.

Reason # 1, if you are a Shitie IA and they send you to Sunni Fallujah to protect Sunnis, you would ask yourself, why? (In my experience, most IA knew one phrase in English: "*uck Fallujah!"

For reason # 2, you seldon see your money, and then a portion of it is taken by your chain of command before it even gets to you. That raises morale!

3.) Well, that reason is still valid, but you can't also get your kicks on the insurgent side.

Patriotic loyalty to the greater Iraq is found in very few of the IA.

IPs are even worse. Organized criminals.

Posted by 0369_Grunt 2006-11-27 13:59|| 2006-11-27 13:59|| Front Page Top

#3 Thanks for the report, 0369_Grunt. It's a great help to hear from someone who knows from personal experience. Welcome to Rantburg! I look forward to reading more of your posts. :-)

Posted by trailing wife 2006-11-27 14:06|| 2006-11-27 14:06|| Front Page Top

#4 The evolution to a professional army is long and frigging painful. Even today, the US military still has to contend with an s-load of corrupt contractors, greedy politicians, and high-ranking screw ups that have a positive gift for wasting resources. It is a struggle that never ends.

However, every time you get an officer who isn't dishonest, and cultivates the same attitude in his subordinates, the body of a military gets some healthy tissue. It is never easy.

Posted by Anonymoose 2006-11-27 19:59|| 2006-11-27 19:59|| Front Page Top

#5 Once again this is compared to what?

Ever read up on the South Korean army being pieced together again after the onslaught of the first North Koran invasion? Not a nice story either. However, just like the Koreans the Iraqis are also now picking up the bulk of the casualties. Someone is doing something cause it doesn't appear the result of being mortared behind lots of protective wire.

Posted by Procopius2k 2006-11-27 21:32|| 2006-11-27 21:32|| Front Page Top

#6 I wonder how much the "insurgents" make and whether they're paid on time.

Posted by Anguper Hupomosing9418 2006-11-27 21:53|| 2006-11-27 21:53|| Front Page Top

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