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2006-11-12 Africa North
Egypt: Islamic Link to Gang Rape and Molestation
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Posted by Sneaze Shaiting3550 2006-11-12 00:00|| || Front Page|| [2 views since 2007-05-07]  Top

#1 More insight into Male Arab terror dynamics:

http://www.nospank.net/glazov.htm

http://www.challenging-islam.org/articles/chesler.htm
Posted by Sneaze Shaiting3550 2006-11-12 03:35||   2006-11-12 03:35|| Front Page Top

#2 Some important observations from the link in the original post:
We were sitting in a coffee shop downtown, I and Wael Abbas and Nasser Noury (a photographer for Reuters) and Mohammed El Sharkawy and others. A colleague joined us and told us that in front of Cinema Metro on Talaat Harb Street sexual assaults were taking place and that the cinema's ticket window had been vandalized.
Funny how this didn't appear on the Reuters wire. I wonder why?
[Australian mufti] Hilaly's view is not unique, it's commonplace among Muslim leaders but not unique to Muslims. In Hilaly's universe and the universe of religious leaders like him, women are always the ones who provoke sexual assaults. Tight clothing is blamed, loose mores, etc are blamed.
Which beggars the question of how many other moderate Muslims share this viewpoint. This becomes critical as we delve deeper into the psycho-sexual nature of Arab terrorism. I'm usually one to eschew using Freudian or sexual terminology to assess behavior. Not so much out of prudishness but simply because rational responsibility should provide many more cogent answers in explaining the behavior of modern adults.

I now rather firmly believe that this does not apply to explanations of how the "Arab Street" conducts itself. If you review the several articles listed above, it becomes increasingly clear that psycho-sexual motives and sexual trauma play a significant role in what we label as Islamic terrorism. This is not an excuse by any means, but it remains an important guidepost to understanding the phenomenon. It also points up some rather important final conclusions.
Incidents like this reveal the fundamental reality that it has nothing to do with the women as individuals at all, with anything they do or don't do, just with the fact that they are women who happen to be in the wrong place at the wrong time.

Let's take a step back to Hilaly's mentor and the founder of modern Islamic radicalism, the godfather of Al Queda, Hamas and nearly every radical Sunni Islamic organization that dates back to the Muslim Brotherhood; Sayyid Qutb. Sayyid, like many radical Muslims, was well educated and had spent time in the West.

He received his Master's Degree in Education at the Colorado State College. He returned full of deranged ramblings about the Jews controlling the world, Americans being obsessed with mowing lawns and sex. His attitude neatly captures the frustrated psychotic behavior of the mobs in Cairo as well as its flip side, the radical Islamists because in the end they are one and the same.

Sayyid Qutub attended a Church sock hop at Colorado's Greely Church and as the pastor put on, "Baby, It's Cold Outside" in the gramophone, Sayyid Qutb began to literally seethe inside. He wrote of the incident later. "They danced to the tunes of the gramophone, and the dance floor was replete with tapping feet, enticing legs, arms wrapped around waists, lips pressed to lips, and chests pressed to chests. The atmosphere was full of desire.

Of American women, Sayid Qutb wrote; "The American girl is well-acquainted with her body's seductive capacity. She knows it lies in the face and in expressive eyes and thirsty lips. She knows seductiveness lies in the round breasts, the full buttocks and in the shapely thighs, sleek legs, and she shows all this and does not hide it."

At least one reason for radical Muslims to hate Jews is for the invention of psychiatry. One that makes it quite clear that Sayyid Qutb was not writing about American women but himself, not about the sock hop but his physical reaction to it. A reaction that he projected onto the objects of his desire. In this same way Qutb and his radical students who include Al Queda's Number 2, Ayman Al Zawahiri, project their own desires on America and Israel.

When they talk about Jews wanting to run the world or America wanting to enslave Muslims, what they really mean is they want to run the world and they want to enslave all Muslims under a single caliphate. That kind of projection is at the heart of Islamic rationalization which says the man isn't responsible for rape because the fact that he desires the women, proves she seduced him and the fact that he hates the West proves that the West is out to get him.

In an inverted moral universe the victims are the perpetrators not because of anything they did but because they have been victimized. The very fact that they were victimized, is used as proof of their culpability. This was the attitude taken through the 19th and 20th centuries towards the massacres and persecution of Jews well into the Holocaust. Indeed many Anti-semitic tracts used that and continue to use it as their argument, stating that the very persecution of the Jews proved that Jews had done something to enrage so many people.

Whenever liberals highlight the Arab Street argument telling us how much of the Muslim world is upset at America, they're playing into the same idea as Hilaly, using Muslim anger as proof that we are guilty. If they're angry at us, it must mean we're at fault for angering them.

For some time now I have maintained that even without terrorism, Islam is null and void as a creed due to its institutionalized abuse of women. A cursory scan of the linked articles proves this in spades. Until Islam ends its policy of Abject Gender Apartheid, there will be no change in any of the other repulsive and psychotic behavior commonly found in MME (Muslim Middle East) countries and Muslim majority countries in general.

The absolute end of FGM (Female Genital Mutilation), and elimination of the hijab, niqab and burqa must represent the first two of several steps towards any authentic rehabilitation of Islam. Across-the-board equality and universal women's suffrage in all MME countries must become a gold standard for their continued participation upon the world stage.

This must be non-negotiable and any attempts at moral equivalency or relativism must be strangled in the cradle lest they allow a scintilla of recalcitrance with respect to this issue. Arguments can go on forever about whether terrorism is justified by dint of religious dogma. While it is patently obvious that there is no moral justification for it, debate could still continue endlessly.

The abuse of women is a much more clear cut issue and one that represents a keystone to many of the dysfunctional aspects in Arab culture. Here is where a gigantic lever must be applied in the enforcement of human rights. This is one of the singlemost important avenues towards finally dismantling much of Islam's toxic meme and it cannot happen too soon.
Posted by Zenster">Zenster  2006-11-12 05:52||   2006-11-12 05:52|| Front Page Top

#3 Zenster:
Great comment. Our leaders and media people have to stop looking at Arabs as victims, and begin to deal with their victimization of women, seculars, religious minorities, etc.
Posted by Sneaze Shaiting3550 2006-11-12 10:13||   2006-11-12 10:13|| Front Page Top

#4 Early Orientalists in Cairo had a saying: "With Arabs you separate the men from the boys with a crowbar."

Jerry S. Piven, Jihad and Sacred Vengeance:
Psychological Undercurrents of History, vol.III, NY 2002

Chesler, Kobrin and de Mause advance the idea that Islamofascist violence comes from the degradation of women in Muslim society, and from the very wide-spread but steadfastly denied prevelance of sexual child abuse in much of the Moslem world. (Martín-Barbero summarizing Kobrin, and deMause chapter 3, and Chesler articles).

According to anthropological research dating back to the 1950s, much of Moslem society, and especially Arab society, suffers from on-going but ignored epidemics of anal rape of young boys, often by older half-brothers and uncles, sometimes gang rape of even very young boys, and anal rape of young girls (vaginal penetration would result in loss of virginity and resultant reduction of bride-price), often by older brothers, half-brothers, uncles, and even fathers.

As summarized by Breiner, the “Arab personality” that results from this wide-spread sexual child abuse and abuse of women (which impacts adversely not only on the women, but also upon the children of the family: imagine the effect upon a small child of seeing his or her beloved and nurturing mother regularly and brutally abused by a totalitarian father) can be described as follows:

“There is a general quality of an "Arab personality" and a special "Arab-world". Some of the characteristics are:

1. words substitute for behavior, leading to confusion of words being equal to action,

2. all Arabs are brothers, yet

3. there is ubiquitous hostility between(kindred) groups,

4. the non-Arab world is the enemy,

5. tribal and patriarchal attitudes are pervasive,

6. difficulty in admitting mistakes,

7. fatalism,

8. emotionally expressive and labile,

9. father is dictatorial and mother (women in general) is submissive, females are denegrated,

10. marked corporal punishment,

11. language and behavior has a time, verb tense distortion,

12. magical thinking,

13. either/or, right/wrong, black/white attitudes,

14. exaggeration is expected,

15. a special code of honor and courage different from the West, with vendettas and murder considered reasonable and required for non-threatening behavior to them,

16. extensive sexual stimulation and prohibition,

17. genitals of children stimulated and attacked, with more extensive abuse to female genitals (mutilation), and

18. extensive physical and psychological problems in giving birth and caring for the young child. There are age inappropriate stimulations and deprivations, general encouragement of hostility, and pervasive denigration and abuse of females of all ages, with resultant pathology that can be seen
in medical and psychological clinics, social settings, political structures, and individual evaluations.” (Breiner, summary)

When considering the above, note how #s 5, 9, 10, 15, 16, 17, and 18 find exemplification in the reports of homosexual abuse of hundreds of young male children in Pakistan by their Madrasa Imams, homosexual rape of slaves in Sudan (especially child slaves), legally sanctioned and religiously excused gang-rape in Pakistan of innocent female members of an offending clan by
males of a clan whose honor has been offended by the female victim’s clan, and the epidemic of Moslem gang rapes against white European women. (I have previously sent emails on these issues with documentation, If you were careless enough to not save them, let me know and I’ll resend them to you).

One need not be a psychiatrist to imagine the psychological harm done to a young boy who must somehow successfully repress his natural rage and fright and shame and feelings of helplessness and other emotional upheaval
resulting from the on-going and unaddressed homosexual abuse that he suffers from otherwise trusted male family members, or from witnessing his male adults abusing his mother or siblings….for years, during his childhood.

Then add to this psychologically toxic mix the impact of castration anxiety produced by Arab male circumcision customs upon 13-year old boys (documented in the material quoted above, and elsewhere).

Then add the brutality of female genital mutilation, far more widespread in the Arab world than acknowledged by the West.

These volcanic feelings of fear and rage and shame and pain, repressed for a life-time, could be the root cause, or one of the major root causes, of the phenomenon of mass rage and social explosive volatility which we call “the
Arab Street”.

They may also be at cause, perhaps at root cause, for the modern phenomenon of Islamofascist terrorism.

We know from our own culture that child abuse is closely connected to criminal behavior and to abuse transferred to the next generation. It is not a far stretch from this documented correlation to the suggestion that repressed rage in Arab males, stemming from abusive experiences in childhood, is at cause for the Arab near-monopoly on terrorism. The
repressed rage may contribute to a proclivity toward violence, and to acting out the repressed hatred on other ‘legitimate’ targets; especially when such targets are legitimized, and violence against them sanctioned, by incendiary
sermons from Islamofascist Imams in Wahhabi-controlled mosques throughout the Moslem world…..and especially when these targets are perceived to be weak and unlikely to retaliate (women, Jews, recently-defeated Israelis, the
American “paper tiger”).

Such rage may account for Daniel Pipes' documentation of "Sudden Jihad Syndrome".

It is not by accident that almost all of the world’s terrorists, for the past 30 years, are Moslems, and most of these are Arabs. Similarly it is not by chance that other than Moslem Arabs, no other ethno-linguistic or national or religious group in the world has a “Street”. We speak only of the "Arab Street".
Posted by Sneaze Shaiting3550 2006-11-12 11:27||   2006-11-12 11:27|| Front Page Top

#5 A useful post, for me at least, Sneaze Shaiting3550. Thank you.
Posted by trailing wife 2006-11-12 22:40||   2006-11-12 22:40|| Front Page Top

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