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2006-11-01 Iraq
Mass ethnic cleansing if Iraq splits: Saudi ambassador
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Posted by Fred 2006-11-01 00:00|| || Front Page|| [3 views since 2007-05-07]  Top

#1 "Ethnic cleansing", huh?

Don't try and pretty it up - it'll be a slaughter, and the Shiites wil be on the losing end.
Posted by mojo">mojo  2006-11-01 00:22||   2006-11-01 00:22|| Front Page Top

#2 Having weaseled himself out of the 9-11 lawsuit, Turki weasels support for his fellow Sunnis. However, we should play the Sunni Card, in our own interests. If the Ayatollahs fall, Syria will collapse too, with Hizbollah, al-Sadr, etc. Then all support for al-Qaeda in Iraq dries up.
Posted by Snease Shaiting3550 2006-11-01 00:30||   2006-11-01 00:30|| Front Page Top

#3 Well Turkey there might be a reduction in Sunni influence there. Or, since they're part of your tribe, maybe they'll all skeedaddle right into SA. That's not the purpose of the wall you're throwing into place is it ? Nah, didn't think so.
Posted by SpecOp35 2006-11-01 00:34||   2006-11-01 00:34|| Front Page Top

#4 No problemo. The faster the shiites and sunnis sort out their problems the sooner the world will know true islam.
And what rubbish is this `ethnic cleansing`. They are arabs. The difference is religous. Should have been more like `religous cleansing`.
Posted by hutchrun">hutchrun  2006-11-01 01:25||   2006-11-01 01:25|| Front Page Top

#5 `Shiites wil be on the losing end.`

Not necessarily. Only one way to find out.
Posted by hutchrun">hutchrun  2006-11-01 01:27||   2006-11-01 01:27|| Front Page Top

#6 I hope y'all will forgive me, but every time this Saudi turd's name floats to the surface, I feel compelled to post the dirt on this particularly nasty piece of shit. This is from a Guardian article of March 2, 2003:

But Turki is not what he seems. Behind him lies a murky tale of espionage, terrorism and torture. For, while Turki has many powerful friends among Britain's elite, he is no ordinary diplomat. Turki has now been served with legal papers by lawyers acting for relatives of the victims of 11 September.

They accuse him of funding and supporting Osama bin Laden. The Observer can also reveal that Turki has now admitted for the first time that Saudi interrogators have tortured six British citizens arrested in Saudi Arabia and accused of carrying out a bombing campaign.

The revelations throw a stark light on Turki's appointment late last year as Saudi Arabia's new ambassador to Britain. They also cast doubt on the suitability of Charles's relationship with senior Saudis. A year ago Charles had dinner with bin Laden's brother, Bakr bin Laden, and regularly hosted meetings for Turki's predecessor, Dr Ghazi Algosaibi, who was recalled after writing poems praising suicide bombers.

The US lawsuit is seeking more than $1 trillion in com pensation from a list of individuals and companies alleged to have supported al- Qaeda. The claimants' head lawyer, Ron Motley, a veteran of successful anti-tobacco suits, has already called it 'the trial of the century'.

Now, after papers were served on Turki several weeks ago, the Saudi ambassador will be at the heart of it. Legal papers in the case obtained by The Observer make it clear that the allegations are serious and lengthy. Many centre around Turki's role as head of the Saudi intelligence agency. He held the post for 25 years before being replaced in 2001 just before the attacks on New York.

Turki admits to meeting bin Laden four or five times in the 1980s, when the Saudi-born terrorist was being supported by the West in Afghanistan. Turki also admits meeting Taliban leader Mullah Omar in 1998. He says he was seeking to extradite bin Laden at the request of the United States.

However, the legal papers tell a different story. Based on sworn testimony from a Taliban intelligence chief called Mullah Kakshar, they allege that Turki had two meetings in 1998 with al-Qaeda. They say that Turki helped seal a deal whereby al-Qaeda would not attack Saudi targets. In return, Saudi Arabia would make no demands for extradition or the closure of bin Laden's network of training camps. Turki also promised financial assistance to Mullah Omar. A few weeks after the meetings, 400 new pick-up vehicles arrived in Kandahar, the papers say.

Kakshar's statement also says that Turki arranged for donations to be made directly to al-Qaeda and bin Laden by a group of wealthy Saudi businessmen. 'Mullah Kakshar's sworn statement implicates Prince Turki as the facilitator of these money transfers in support of the Taliban, al-Qaeda and international terrorism,' the papers said.

Turki's link to one of al-Qaeda's top money- launderers, Mohammed Zouaydi, who lived in Saudi Arabia from 1996 to 2001, is also exposed. Zouaydi acted as the accountant for the Faisal branch of the Saudi royal family that includes Turki. Zouaydi, who is now in jail in Spain, is also accused of being al-Qaeda's top European financier. He distributed more than $1 million to al- Qaeda units, including the Hamburg cell of Mohammed Atta which plotted the World Trade Centre attack.

Finally the lawsuit alleges that Turki was 'instrumental' in setting up a meeting between bin Laden and senior Iraqi intelligence agent Faruq al-Hijazi in December 1998. At that meeting it is alleged that bin Laden agreed to avenge recent American bombings of Iraqi targets and in return Iraq offered him a safe haven and gave him blank Yemeni passports.


This lying shitbag has ZERO interest in any sort of American success within the MME (Muslim Middle East).

I'd like to go off topic for a moment and welcome hutchrun to Rantburg. I haven't seen your nym around here before and thought I'd dust off the welcome mat.

As to ethnic cleansing, you've hit one of my personal points, hutchrun. I have long maintained that the tremendous effort, treasure and precious American blood spilled in Iraq will all be worth it if the remaining world will finally realize how Muslims simply adore killing each other. The upshot being that once they're through squabbling over doctrinal issues like who was the first to wipe his ass with a smooth stone in his left hand, they'll be out to kill the rest of us infidels with gay abandon.

Any promise threat of ethnic cleansing must be laid directly at the Saudis' feet. Their fucked up hyperviolent Wahabbist shitheads have bred up so much of this sectarian hatred that any protestations over Sunnis getting a massive ass-kicking in Iraq should fall on deaf ears.

“Since America came into Iraq uninvited, it should not leave Iraq uninvited,”

Blow me you sick shit. We'll do what's best for America and Saudi Arabia can suck hind tit.
Posted by Zenster">Zenster  2006-11-01 02:10||   2006-11-01 02:10|| Front Page Top

#7 Saudi is at the core of religious hated worldwide which Bush must tackle head on with Turki & Saudi Royal Family.

As i have read elsewhere-

"Not all Muslims are suicide bombers, but all Muslim suicide bombers are Wahhabis."
Posted by Cheregum Crelet7867 2006-11-01 06:08||   2006-11-01 06:08|| Front Page Top

#8 Here, use this.
Posted by Perfesser 2006-11-01 09:35||   2006-11-01 09:35|| Front Page Top

#9 I still say reconstitute the Ottoman Empire if we fail. Leave Israel and Turkey out but conquer the rest and give it to the Kurds to run. Kurds have Shia and Sunni and wouldn't be opposed to using strong measures to keep the peace.

Mecca in the hands of semi-friendly Moslems would do a lot of good.
Posted by rjschwarz 2006-11-01 13:00||   2006-11-01 13:00|| Front Page Top

#10 Two large nukes, one over Riyadh, the other over Qom, would settle a LOT of the problems in the Middle East. The House of Saud is a house of hate and destruction. It's time its influence was eliminated. The idiots in Qom need a LARGE a$$-kicking. I also believe the entire world would be a more friendly place if the US used nukes again. It would eliminate all doubt that we will do whatever we HAVE to to maintain world peace, including eliminating the source of discord.
Posted by Old Patriot">Old Patriot  2006-11-01 14:51|| http://oldpatriot.blogspot.com/]">[http://oldpatriot.blogspot.com/]  2006-11-01 14:51|| Front Page Top

#11 Actually just give Mecca back to the Jordanian Royal Family where it belongs. The Saudis took it from the Hassemites Royals in the 1920s, before then, Mecca was the Hassemites responsibility and was run a lot more cleanly and efficiently. Also, the Hassemites are NOT Wahabists and their influence on who would or would not be a recognized Mecca Imam could be a big help.
Posted by Shieldwolf 2006-11-01 17:57||   2006-11-01 17:57|| Front Page Top

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