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2006-10-31 Home Front: Politix
Belmont Club: Intellectual fraud on the Left
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Posted by Mike 2006-10-31 12:32|| || Front Page|| [2 views since 2007-05-07]  Top

#1 I'd accept their opinion if they'd stand up and say they think Jews, Muslims and Wiccans are mythology I'd at least believe them intellectually consistant and honest about it. If they are just gonna pick on one they come off as children rebelling against authority.
Posted by rjschwarz 2006-10-31 13:21||   2006-10-31 13:21|| Front Page Top

#2 On this view, a person who led an entirely exemplary life in terms of his impact on the world (would an example help? Gandhi, maybe?)

Gandhi was a racist.
Posted by Rob Crawford">Rob Crawford  2006-10-31 16:21|| http://www.kloognome.com/]">[http://www.kloognome.com/]  2006-10-31 16:21|| Front Page Top

#3 On the other hand, the evangelical view of this matter is, in fact, completely absurd

Well of course it's absurd to them. They still think they are pretty great folks. The vast chasm that separates a holy God from sinful man cannot be breached by intellectual argument however.

a person who led an entirely exemplary life in terms of his impact on the world

Red herring. Again, this assumes that God is keeping a scorecard. He isn't. He's perfect. How can he let imperfection into his realm? That's the basic Christian argument. Only through the sacrifice of Christ can man be made fit for heaven, no matter how good he or others think he is. Absurd? Perhaps to most. Biblical? Absolutely.

As to the libs pandering to evangelicals before the election, we see right through that. Who cares. Next story.
Posted by mcsegeek1 2006-10-31 17:15||   2006-10-31 17:15|| Front Page Top

#4 I read the comments at Belmnont Club and was not surprised by the venom towards evangelicals.

Hate towards a group of others whom you do not know for slights that attributed to the group rather than to the individuals that perpetrated them. What's the word for that?

They remind me of the Palestinians - at a time when liberals, Jews, Christians and anyone who believes in non-violence should be working together to defeat Islamic radicals - they take the opportunity to spew hate towards groups less threatening.

Just like the Palestinians throw rocks at Jews because they are confident they won't shoot back, the enlightened at the Belmont club rage at Christian evangelicals they have never met, have no clue what they think or do on a daily basis - but the enlightened at the Belmont Club are just sure they deserve it cause they don't support gay marriage and are geeky squares. They make a very safe group of "others" to blame for the worlds ills.

Just like Palestinians can't embrace democracy because they can't get past their hatred of Jews - some of those posters over there gladly focus on the peaceful evangelicals, claiming that they deserve it because they believe others won't get to heaven - and they ignore the REAL threats to women, homosexuals, freedom, democracy and instead and dig up the hatchet to bully a less threatening group that won't fight back.
Posted by anon 2006-10-31 17:41||   2006-10-31 17:41|| Front Page Top

#5 The funniest thing is the attribution of the belief in the necessity of accepting Christ as an "evangelical" belief. It's not. It's a basic Christian belief, no?

Dante put the "virtuous pagans" in Hell. Granted, the least unpleasant part, but they were still in Hell.
Posted by Rob Crawford">Rob Crawford  2006-10-31 18:42|| http://www.kloognome.com/]">[http://www.kloognome.com/]  2006-10-31 18:42|| Front Page Top

#6 What strikes me the most about Yglesias' article is how totally ignorant he is of 2000 years of Western theology and philosophy.

Note that I'm not saying he is ignorant because he doesn't believe -- rather, he has absolutely no idea of the long intellectual history within which the issues he raises have been discussed, both by Christians and by those hostile to Christianity.

We have more than a generation of people whose roots in Western culture are so shallow they are non-functional. That is not by accident, IMO -- many on the left labored long and hard to produce just that result.
Posted by lotp 2006-10-31 19:20||   2006-10-31 19:20|| Front Page Top

#7 Rob Crawford: Gandhi was a racist.

That was the least of his faults. Here is a real eye-opening article on "Saint" Gandhi.
Posted by xbalanke 2006-10-31 21:23||   2006-10-31 21:23|| Front Page Top

#8 We have more than a generation of people whose roots in Western culture are so shallow they are non-functional. That is not by accident, IMO -- many on the left labored long and hard to produce just that result.

well said, lopt.
Posted by Clkethel OHlkdj 2006-10-31 21:23||   2006-10-31 21:23|| Front Page Top

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