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2006-09-27 Africa Subsaharan

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Posted by Besoeker 2006-09-27 07:22|| || Front Page|| [1 views since 2007-05-07] Top

#1 What did he expect from the triumph of a communist movement? The failure of the whites to remove apartheid properly in good time has left them with the disaster they now face. Hard to tell for whom to have less sympathy.

Posted by Nimble Spemble 2006-09-27 08:06|| 2006-09-27 08:06|| Front Page Top

#2 Another African Dreamland going down the tubes.
Yeah, I'm as shocked as you, Dez...

Posted by tu3031 2006-09-27 08:44|| 2006-09-27 08:44|| Front Page Top

#3 The failure of the whites to remove apartheid properly in good time

Yes, of course... precisely white Dutch and English failure, always the cause. Colonization appears to have worked somewhat favorably in American, Australia, New Zealand... but for some reason, well, need I go on?

Posted by Besoeker 2006-09-27 08:46|| 2006-09-27 08:46|| Front Page Top

#4 We see the same failures every day in Nawlins.
What is it about black politics ?

Posted by wxjames 2006-09-27 11:06|| 2006-09-27 11:06|| Front Page Top

#5 "he said the African reverence for life had been lost."

Hard to loose something that never existed.

Posted by Secret Master 2006-09-27 11:40|| 2006-09-27 11:40|| Front Page Top

#6 The damage inflicted by apartheid is not unique. The same pattern can be found in many places that were under communist rule for decades.

Where people have little or no control over their lives, they soon decide they have no responsibility either. Where they have a corrupt and oppressive government, the first generation may will rebel, if only silently in their hearts. By the 3rd generation, corruption, veniality and violence are accepted as the way things are.

It takes time to undo that. I am no fan of the current SA government, nor of Tutu (whom I've met). But on this point he is absolutely correct.

The question is, how to change this. And the answer includes holding people accountable for their actions going forward.

Posted by lotp 2006-09-27 12:12|| 2006-09-27 12:12|| Front Page Top

#7 -- warned of growing ethnic divisions--

Back to normal.

tribal.

Posted by anonymous2u 2006-09-27 12:21|| 2006-09-27 12:21|| Front Page Top

#8 Oppression doesn't create bad character. It only exposes it.

Posted by mcsegeek1 2006-09-27 12:21|| 2006-09-27 12:21|| Front Page Top

#9 I agree, for the first generation. By the 3rd or 4th, IMO it helps to create it.

Posted by lotp 2006-09-27 12:39|| 2006-09-27 12:39|| Front Page Top

#10 They've been trying to mend the tribalism since Lucy first napped beneath a Jackaranda.... no luck so far.

Posted by Besoeker 2006-09-27 14:50|| 2006-09-27 14:50|| Front Page Top

#11 The question is, how to change this. And the answer includes holding people accountable for their actions going forward.

There is nothing so depressing as the prospects of SA. It is headed to regression to the pre-European state. This is well advanced in Zim-bob-way. Perhaps after they hit bottom, they can start to rise again, but there is little to indicate that we can do much to change things for the better there.

Posted by Nimble Spemble 2006-09-27 17:36|| 2006-09-27 17:36|| Front Page Top

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