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2006-09-13 Israel-Palestine-Jordan

Beilin: Hamas prisoner were bargaining chips

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Posted by Fred 2006-09-13 00:00|| || Front Page|| [1 views since 2007-05-07] Top

#1 From the very start it was clear that their imprisonment was primarily as a bargaining chip, and not because they posed a risk

Who f&cking cares? Get the soldiers back. That's all that matters.

Posted by Zenster 2006-09-13 00:28|| 2006-09-13 00:28|| Front Page Top

#2 Don't like it? Turnabout is fair play.

Personally, I love it.

I wonder what percentage of the Palestinians and other muslim observers get it.

Posted by gorb 2006-09-13 05:19|| 2006-09-13 05:19|| Front Page Top

#3 Who f&cking cares?

The same people who denounce terrorist organizations for using similar extortion tactics.

Posted by DepotGuy 2006-09-13 10:16|| 2006-09-13 10:16|| Front Page Top

#4 DepotGuy, no. Hamas "government" is responsible in the criminal activity of a hostage taking. Don't tell me that if they wanted, Shalit would be released the next minute. The only problem is that Israel does not have a clear legal mechanism to address this situation. But there is no equivalence here.

Posted by twobyfour 2006-09-13 11:17|| 2006-09-13 11:17|| Front Page Top

#5 "The only problem is that Israel does not have a clear legal mechanism to address this situation. But there is no equivalence here."

How about this for a clear legal mechanism? If these peopleyes people (not some ambiguous association like "government") are responsible, then try them for the abduction, convict them, and throw them in the jug. If they are a security threat, as first asserted, then do the same. Hellif they are indeed security threatspop their melons from half a mile away and call it a day. But abductions as a negotiation tactic are the same no matter who the actors are. And if you hadnt noticed this type of thing only invites more of the same in the future.

Posted by DepotGuy 2006-09-13 12:36|| 2006-09-13 12:36|| Front Page Top

#6 Still no.

Notice the pattern: Paleos get jailed for terrorist activity. Some other Paleos abduct an Israeli to demand release of prisoners. Israel is squeamish and complies. That has been going on for years. And THAT invited further abductions. And they will continue, regardless what Israel does.

So, maybe a change of the stratagem may work out to something different?

Posted by twobyfour 2006-09-13 13:09|| 2006-09-13 13:09|| Front Page Top

#7 And THAT invited further abductions.

Im a little slow on the uptake so let me see if I follow.
Palestinians abduct a soldier in hopes of a prisoner swapBad.
Israel abducts Palestinian officials as trade-baitGood.
The reason theyre not the same thing is because Israel took their captives after the Palestinians took theirs first.
(Pay no attention to the existing prisoners Israel has or if the Palestinians take more prisoners...otherwise it gets really convoluted.)
And so if there is an exchange it really isnt a prisoner swap like in the pastits more of ahumoh yeahits a good will gesture. Gotcha!

Posted by DepotGuy 2006-09-13 14:56|| 2006-09-13 14:56|| Front Page Top

#8 I think an eye for an eye is always fair. Or even 10 teeth for a tooth

Posted by SwissTex 2006-09-13 15:52|| 2006-09-13 15:52|| Front Page Top

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