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2006-08-12 Science & Technology

`Hellbrew' is cheap, simple to make

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Posted by Steve White 2006-08-12 00:00|| || Front Page|| [1 views since 2007-05-07] Top

#1 'Or any simple electronic device with a current.'
And hence the specific concern about IPod's. I wonder if Apple is going to start a new 'think diffrent' campaign?

Posted by robisen">robisen 2006-08-12 00:09|| robisen.com]">[robisen.com] 2006-08-12 00:09|| Front Page Top

#2 I have a couple of iPods as I suspect many here do. I'm trying to figure out how you get enough power out of it to spark something. The port at the bottom is my guess, but you have to get to the USB/Firewire pins, and I think they only support 500 (200 ??) mA max. Not sure if that can set off a peroxide/nail polish bomb.

Posted by Steve White">Steve White 2006-08-12 00:18|| 2006-08-12 00:18|| Front Page Top

#3 Michael Chertoff's press conference the morning of the alert stated that "they wake up every morning thinking about ways to kill infidels" (really more of a paraphrase there, but the gist is correct). My thought was, "Why aren't we doing the same?"

We do here at the 'burg, but everywhere else, it's crickets and condemnation. Bah.

Posted by Seafarious">Seafarious 2006-08-12 00:18|| 2006-08-12 00:18|| Front Page Top

#4 The religion of peace (TM) paving the road to hell.

Posted by newc">newc 2006-08-12 00:28|| 2006-08-12 00:28|| Front Page Top

#5 The Brits were very specific about NOT allowing disposable cameras onboard any aircraft, at the very beginning of the alert. The built-in flash unit is what concerned them : small electric igniter if the outer casing is removed.

Posted by Shieldwolf 2006-08-12 02:27|| 2006-08-12 02:27|| Front Page Top

#6 They may also be modifying the ignition system to look like an ipod or other harmless device. Few inspectors would look twice.

Posted by Baba Tutu 2006-08-12 03:22|| 2006-08-12 03:22|| Front Page Top

#7 Baba Tutu, yea, ya' nailed it, I thunk.

Posted by twobyfour 2006-08-12 03:30|| 2006-08-12 03:30|| Front Page Top

#8 With an inherently unstable mixture, a medium length section of nichrome wire and single matchhead would be enough to ignite it. That is what the old Estes model rocket engine igniters were, basically.

Posted by Shieldwolf 2006-08-12 04:34|| 2006-08-12 04:34|| Front Page Top

#9 #2: I have a couple of iPods as I suspect many here do. I'm trying to figure out how you get enough power out of it to spark something

I don't own one, do they have earphone(s)? That would be enough power.

Posted by Redneck Jim 2006-08-12 09:36|| 2006-08-12 09:36|| Front Page Top

#10 Another possibility is that the iPod case is opened, the contents modified and the case reclosed.

Posted by lotp 2006-08-12 09:47|| 2006-08-12 09:47|| Front Page Top

#11 I have a couple of iPods as I suspect many here do. I'm trying to figure out how you get enough power out of it to spark something

What? What? Yeah, it's north of hear. What? mmmmmmm...

Posted by 6 2006-08-12 11:35|| 2006-08-12 11:35|| Front Page Top

#12 I/O ports usually are current limited.

Just put heavy duty batteries in the iPod and short them thru a bit of resistance wire, as someone else mentioned. Not exactly rocket surgery!

Posted by SteveS 2006-08-12 12:17|| 2006-08-12 12:17|| Front Page Top

#13 You can put batteries in iPods?

Posted by 6 2006-08-12 19:32|| 2006-08-12 19:32|| Front Page Top

#14 Well if the device beeps or buzzes the model rocketry fix was say a radio shack timer hook up a 9 volt battery in series with the buzzer with a flash bulb when the buzzer circut is triggered the 9volt battery sets off the flashbulb that ignites a length of thermalite fuse that sets off your pyro.
BTW i have read that this explosive might be familiar to most rantburgers as those cracker balls you know toss and they go bang fireworks. Makes me really want to be next to a couple kilos of the stuff.

Posted by bruce 2006-08-12 20:35|| 2006-08-12 20:35|| Front Page Top

#15 To stay ahead of the "Silicon Simians", this would probably be a good thread to keep alive somehow...Our basic collective H.S. Chem. smarts is better than theirs anyway. We just don't "dwell" on it like they do. I say, keep the insights flowing.

Posted by Asymmetrical Triangulation 2006-08-12 21:06|| 2006-08-12 21:06|| Front Page Top

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