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2006-05-12 Home Front: WoT

This Isn't Just 'Dissent': The CIA's leakers lack the Cold Warriors' sense of purpose.

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Posted by Nimble Spemble 2006-05-12 09:26|| || Front Page|| [4 views since 2007-05-07] Top

#1 When confirmed gen Hayden needs to haved a couple dozen leakers perp-walked the front doors of Langley. Not all at once draw it out for a couple of weeks. After that, the NYT et al won't have anybody willing to talk to them. A matter of fact why haven't we heard of someone facing charges about the string of leaks?

Posted by Cyber Sarge 2006-05-12 10:45|| 2006-05-12 10:45|| Front Page Top

#2 "Gen. Michael Hayden's biggest problem at the CIA will be that some of his employees are the products of a culture that no longer understands or respects the sense of purpose, discipline and honor of the best Cold Warriors, who understood that the government is an elected hierarchy of constitutional responsibility and not a faculty senate free to undermine mere presidents."

These kinds of peopleahve poisoned the Intelligence Community. They don't take their oath seriously, and were more loyal to themselves and political affiliation than they were the safety of our nation. More interested in emprie building within the agency than protecting the nation. More interested in how they could spin something instead of how to convince and alert people who needed to know.

And this is why I am no longer working directly for the government. The Intelligence Community I knew rotted from within in the 1990's under political CYA appointees and the people they promoted who were like themselves. From what I hear, Hayden did a wonderful job rooting out this crap at NSA, and he desperately needs to be given the whip hand and tear it out by its roots at CIA, civil service rules be damned.

Posted by Oldspook 2006-05-12 13:57|| 2006-05-12 13:57|| Front Page Top

#3 It's very tricky prosecuting spies. Their whole knowledge base becomes vulnerable to public exposure during trial. The prosecution would have to reveal even more information to make its case than the defendant had already leaked or sold. It's not legal to just 'disappear' them in this country (though I suspect in an extreme case that is exactly what would happen.)

Posted by Glenmore">Glenmore 2006-05-12 15:04|| 2006-05-12 15:04|| Front Page Top

#4 There is a solution -and its in the Constitution:

A Jury of their peers.

Get a judge and prosecuter and defense attnys that can get the requisite clearance, and draw the jury pool from cleared people at other agencies and the DoD.

Posted by Oldspook 2006-05-12 15:44|| 2006-05-12 15:44|| Front Page Top

#5 When you get Cleared for Weird you have to sign a non-disclosure agreement. It states that you can be prosecuted for violating this agreement. Clearly some people have broken that agreement or we would not have heard about this program. File charges and let the chips fall where they may. I guarantee you that after the first couple of leakers/traitors get frog marched past credit union, very few people will want to come within 10 miles of a reporter.

Posted by Cyber Sarge 2006-05-12 17:38|| 2006-05-12 17:38|| Front Page Top

#6 When a public agency is no longer willing to prosecute its own for even heinious crimes or malice, it starts becoming a bureaucratic/
institutional "useful idiot" or idiots for the very enemy(s) or antagonists it is supposed to be protecting American from. BILL CLINTON'S "MONICA" DEFENSE - Bill really Really REALLY R-E-A-L-L-Y BELIEVED, D*** IT, HE TOLD THE AMERICAN PEOPLE THE "STRAIGHT ARROW = DAMN THE TORPEDOES" TRUTH WHEN HE KNOWINGLY AND WILFULLY LIED TO THEM. DID HE!? A Fascist = Communist ,America = Russia-China, a GOP-Conservative = Dem-Leftist, Socialist = Capitalist/Federalist, Cops/Judges
/the Law = Crooks-Mafiosi, Laissez Faire-Libertarianism = Regulation/Governmentism
/Centralism, etc. ..............@. WHETHER AMERICANS-ALLIES WANT TO OR NOT, LIKE IT OR NOT, AMERICA-ALLIES MUST NOW EITHER DE FACTO, PUBLICLY OFFICIALLY FORMALLY AND OVERTLY, RULE THE WORLD, OR ELSE BE DESTROYED. The "Serve and Protect" Public Sector just becomes a subjective or pseudo-Mafia-Crime syndicate. *SHANGHAI COOP ORG Milex > CONTROL ANY AND ALL SIDES AND DESTROY YOUR TARGET FROM ANY AND ALL SIDES, FROM WITHIN AND WITHOUT, BY ANY MEANS NECESSARY. What does mainstream America get, or even the US Left > Chicoms/Commies = 200Milyuhn-plus of America's 300Milyuhn population get the death camp/gulag or both anyways! Our national holocaust + loss of 1/2-plus of CONUS-NORAM territory is good for everybody, even for us.

Posted by JosephMendiola 2006-05-12 21:47|| 2006-05-12 21:47|| Front Page Top

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