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2006-05-12 Home Front: Politix

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Posted by ryuge 2006-05-12 03:54|| || Front Page|| [4 views since 2007-05-07] Top

#1 The CIA was coming unglued long before Goss got there.

Iran hostages
Afghanistan.
Soviet Union Collapse
Iraq invading kuwait
9/11
leak war against th Bush administration
the resistance in Iraq

Its missed a ton and only succeeded in reducing, not enhancing the secuiryt of the US.

It needs to be completely restructured and reformed or else dismantled.

Posted by Oldspook 2006-05-12 04:30|| 2006-05-12 04:30|| Front Page Top

#2 The Russians figured out a long time ago how to multiply moles at will. The Russians didn't just recruit for the sake of pilfering information, they fed successes to their moles, adjusted disinformation ploys, instructed moles to promote other moles, and forced out the honest and competent talent. The Russians turned the agency into their puppet, and destroyed it in the process.

Posted by Rory B. Bellows 2006-05-12 04:42|| 2006-05-12 04:42|| Front Page Top

#3 Oldspook: It should be in the nature of of a good clandestine service that the victories are little known. But in the case of the CIA, the defeats over the past thirty years have been so public and so manifest, I've simply got to ask, when was the last time this outfit had any success of any kind?

Posted by Classical_Liberal 2006-05-12 05:10|| 2006-05-12 05:10|| Front Page Top

#4 The MSM is trying to pin the CIA's failures on a member of Bush's administration? I'm shocked, I tell you!

Posted by Raj 2006-05-12 08:14|| 2006-05-12 08:14|| Front Page Top

#5 There have been some good successes, but recently, other than the Ops finally workign in SW Asia, there's not much out there.

And the reason is that the agency IMHO, rotted from within by being led by political hacks and a loss of purpose in the 1990's. It promoted people who were good with twiddling budget numbers, spinning reports, and protecting their jobs and their power in the agency (by curring favor to those like themselves all the way up to Clinton and Bush I). And thats what they did instead of serving the nation, they served themselves.

Hayden needs to take a flamethrower to the place. And you'll see even more politically motivated leaks as these rat bastards try to damage the nation in hopes of holding their jobs and power and dishonest way of living.

I hope Hayden fires and jails scores of them.

Posted by Oldspook 2006-05-12 14:02|| 2006-05-12 14:02|| Front Page Top

#6 As I type this, the FBI is scouring Dusty Foggo's house. Looks like I called this last night.

Let's see if anyone has any canoeing accidents on the Potomac in the next day or two.

Posted by Rory B. Bellows 2006-05-12 14:46|| 2006-05-12 14:46|| Front Page Top

#7 I spoke with someone today who knows a lot more about the CIA than I do, and he figures just about the same as Oldspook does.

He traces the CIA degradation back to the fall of Russia. There was a few years of an extremely confident CIA until it finally sunk in that the major purpose was gone. Without purpose, pride honor and duty tend to erode and we eventually get what we have now. A typical Gov't beaurocracy.

To a lot of people at the CIA keeping a job is the most imortant thing going because they have lost that strong feeling of needing to protect the country like they once had.

He also concurs that the leaks will continue as they adjust to the new director. Hayden will rub a lot of people the wrong way, which is the right thing to do.

Unfortunately, no fires or jailings are likely.

Posted by Mike N. 2006-05-12 14:51|| 2006-05-12 14:51|| Front Page Top

#8 I do agree the the 'spook about breaking up the CIA.

At least separate the clandestine and paramilitary ops from the analasys and move them to someplace where people like having a CIA. Like my house for example. If that's not big enough build them an HQ in Texas or someplace where less B.S. surrounds them.

Lets be honest, the paramilitary part should work closely with U.S. Special Forces and should therefore be on a military base. Good place for the clandestine to be too if you ask me.

Posted by Mike N. 2006-05-12 15:06|| 2006-05-12 15:06|| Front Page Top

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