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2006-05-01 Iraq
Iraqi vice president sez 100,000 have fled
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Posted by Dan Darling 2006-05-01 01:21|| || Front Page|| [3 views since 2007-05-07]  Top

#1 I'm busy minding my own business, reading rantburg and then ... after one sentence, just one, I think to myself, "this has got to be NYT BS". I click the link and ... well, what do you know...NYT.

I didn't even get past the first sentence and already it was clear!!! I know that for the true intel types there are treasures to be found in flea markets like this. However, as someone who no longer has the time or inclination to sift through the piles of junk like this, should anyone else find a jewel among these rags, could you pass it on for the rest of us??? Thanks.
Posted by 2b 2006-05-01 02:04||   2006-05-01 02:04|| Front Page Top

#2 yipes sorry about that last post. I was reeeally tired last night - so I'm not sure what my point was other than I get tired of reading the deeply sectarian doom gloom macros by the NYT reporters instead of real reporting.
Posted by 2b 2006-05-01 07:28||   2006-05-01 07:28|| Front Page Top

#3 "The latest estimate was made by Adel Abdul Mahdi, a Shiite leader selected as one of two vice presidents, but it was not clear where he had gotten his information. On Friday he had suggested the number was 100,000 families, but today corrected it to say that 100,000 people were living as refugees."

Do you really think the NYT is misquoting Mahdi?
Posted by Liberalhawk 2006-05-01 10:02||   2006-05-01 10:02|| Front Page Top

#4 It's not clear where all these DPs are moving *to*. Iran or Kurdistan? We haven't had any reports of any refugee camps, have we? And if there *were* refugee camps, I would tend to regard them as terror training camps, more like Sadr City or Ein-el-Hellhole. Even if an Iraqi camp didn't start that way, that is surely how it would end up.
Posted by Seafarious">Seafarious  2006-05-01 10:09||   2006-05-01 10:09|| Front Page Top

#5 "Do you really think the NYT is misquoting Mahdi?"

No. It's called "quoting for effect".
Posted by Fordesque 2006-05-01 11:12||   2006-05-01 11:12|| Front Page Top

#6 "er maybe it was a million! Yeah a million ...uh families! Yeah, that's the ticket!"
Posted by Frank G 2006-05-01 12:17||   2006-05-01 12:17|| Front Page Top

#7 Sea

From what ive read theyre moving internally. Shia are moving to Najaf, Sunnis are moving to Anbar. Some are just moving to different parts of Baghdad. And theyre often taken in by relatives, etc. I did see a report a few weeks ago of a camp being set up in Najaf for Shia refugees from Baghdad, but havent seen any follow up. My take is that while the numbers be exagerrated it is going on. There are clearly at least a few neighborhoods in Baghdad, and parts of the "triangle of death" just South of Baghdad, where its almost suicidal to remain if youre in the wrong sect. But you dont have to go real far to find someplace much safer. Im not sure if the numbers are as small as I think they are cause there are still safe mixed areas, or if there were never that many mixed areas in Baghdad to begine with.
Posted by Liberalhawk 2006-05-01 13:00||   2006-05-01 13:00|| Front Page Top

#8 That's more-or-less what I was thinking, LH. Surely if there were a large number of refugees setting up some sort of camp, we'd have 24-hour handwringing on the teevee.
Posted by Seafarious">Seafarious  2006-05-01 13:57||   2006-05-01 13:57|| Front Page Top

#9 Gateway Pundit has some links and details here, from today and here, from Saturday
Posted by Adriane 2006-05-01 18:20||   2006-05-01 18:20|| Front Page Top

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