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2006-04-29 International-UN-NGOs

Triple volcano risk to ~~70,000~~ Climate Doommongers

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Posted by phil_b 2006-04-29 00:00|| || Front Page|| [3 views since 2007-05-07] Top

#1 Quick, call Brownie

Posted by Captain America 2006-04-29 00:38|| 2006-04-29 00:38|| Front Page Top

#2 Volcanos, why do they hate us?

Posted by DanNY 2006-04-29 06:56|| 2006-04-29 06:56|| Front Page Top

#3 Hope we get some good pictures of these volcanoes going off. From a safe distsance of course.

Posted by Charles 2006-04-29 07:00|| 2006-04-29 07:00|| Front Page Top

#4 OK Moonbats, let's hear your plan to contain these Deadly Carbon Dioxide emissions.

Posted by Redneck Jim 2006-04-29 08:23|| 2006-04-29 08:23|| Front Page Top

#5 He said that the jirga members were ready to sacrifice their lives to uphold their verdict.

Those worried about global warming should therefore be gratified...

Posted by Ptah">Ptah 2006-04-29 08:29|| http://www.crusaderwarcollege.org]">[http://www.crusaderwarcollege.org] 2006-04-29 08:29|| Front Page Top

#6 URK. What I WANTED to quote was:

The eruption of any volcano can have an effect on local and global climate and three large eruptions close together could have a significant impact, leading to cooler temperatures.

PIMF

Posted by Ptah">Ptah 2006-04-29 08:30|| http://www.crusaderwarcollege.org]">[http://www.crusaderwarcollege.org] 2006-04-29 08:30|| Front Page Top

#7 I like #5, it's very troothy.

Posted by 6 2006-04-29 09:43|| 2006-04-29 09:43|| Front Page Top

#8 Oh this is just great! Just when I was getting my hopes up about the Global Warming we're going to have a Little Ice Age.

Posted by eLarson 2006-04-29 09:49|| http://larsonian.blogspot.com]">[http://larsonian.blogspot.com] 2006-04-29 09:49|| Front Page Top

#9 So if we see that start of a Little Ice Age, does that mean we can do back to coal fired generation plants, remove the cat converters from our cars, and start chugging unblended gas again?

Posted by Glins Shinerong2352 2006-04-29 10:16|| 2006-04-29 10:16|| Front Page Top

#10 I keep telling you folks, the operative phrase among the "experts" is now "climate change", not "global warming". That way, they're never wrong, which makes them "experts"...

Posted by tu3031 2006-04-29 10:24|| 2006-04-29 10:24|| Front Page Top

#11 The media are working up articles for file on "The botched response to the ______ volcano."

Posted by KBK 2006-04-29 10:42|| 2006-04-29 10:42|| Front Page Top

#12 The media are working up articles for file on "The botched response to the ______ volcano."

Posted by KBK 2006-04-29 10:42|| 2006-04-29 10:42|| Front Page Top

#13 This wouldn't happen if the Indons went back to worshipping the volcano god.

Posted by ed 2006-04-29 10:54|| 2006-04-29 10:54|| Front Page Top

#14 It's all Bush's fault!!! He didn't sign Kyoto!! Global ~~warming~~ um.. ~~cooling~~ um.. Climate change!!

Posted by DathVader 2006-04-29 11:06|| 2006-04-29 11:06|| Front Page Top

#15 Embrace Change! Especially copper pennies!

Posted by 6 2006-04-29 11:30|| 2006-04-29 11:30|| Front Page Top

#16 Just as long as Mt. Saint Helens doesn't blow again!

Posted by FeralCat 2006-04-29 12:20|| 2006-04-29 12:20|| Front Page Top

#17 Just as long as it's not Long Valley Caldera OK...

Posted by SPoD 2006-04-29 13:43|| http://sockpuppetofdoom.blogspot.com/]">[http://sockpuppetofdoom.blogspot.com/] 2006-04-29 13:43|| Front Page Top

#18 I propose sacrificing AlGore to the Volcano Gods. Should be an even swap in gaseous emissions spewed

Posted by Frank G">Frank G 2006-04-29 14:10|| 2006-04-29 14:10|| Front Page Top

#19 Let's see, now. There's an active volcano in Nicaragua puffing steam and gasses, one on the island of Martinique in the Caribbean, one in Ecuador, two or three on the Kamchatka peninsula, AT LEAST one in Hawaii (plus one bubbling beneath the surface to the southeast of the big island of Hawaii), Mount Etna is bubbling and churning, and the New Zealanders have an active volcano. Mt. St. Helens is growing/shrinking, indicating it's still pretty active. There's a good chance that Mt Rainier and Mt. Hood could explode in the next 100 years, and the Yellowstone Caldera continues to be active.

There's increasing evidence of additional volcanic pressure in the old Silveton caldera, and there's been some tectonic activity near Trinidad, in southern Colorado that many call the preludes to volcanic activity in the area (the nearby Spanish Peaks are leftovers from a late-Pliestocene volcano). Now, why should non-locals be worried about these particular three again?

Posted by Old Patriot">Old Patriot 2006-04-29 17:33|| http://oldpatriot.blogspot.com/]">[http://oldpatriot.blogspot.com/] 2006-04-29 17:33|| Front Page Top

#20 OP, stratovolcanos can explosively erupt injecting large quantities of material into the atmosphere. Some people think we are overdue for a VEI5+ eruption. There were none in the 20th century, while there two in the 19th century. A VEI5+ eruption would have a global impact.

Otherwise, the writer is wrong to characterize the effect of a large eruption as just climate cooling. Recent research strongly indicates that while the initial effect is cooling from dust in the atmosphere, there is a longer term warming effect from the gases ejected. Because the dust is removed from the atmosphere faster than the gases.

Some people think the increase global temperatures we saw in the mid 1990s, peaking in 1998 was from Pinatubo.

Posted by phil_b">phil_b 2006-04-29 18:57|| http://autonomousoperation.blogspot.com/]">[http://autonomousoperation.blogspot.com/] 2006-04-29 18:57|| Front Page Top

#21 The VEI (Volcanic Eruption Index)

Posted by Ptah">Ptah 2006-04-29 19:35|| http://www.crusaderwarcollege.org]">[http://www.crusaderwarcollege.org] 2006-04-29 19:35|| Front Page Top

#22 75,000 years ago the Toba volcano in Indonesia erupted, spewing 2,800 cubic kilometers of material in a plume some 25 km high. That's 2800 times the output of the Mt. St. Helens eruption a few years ago. The ash has been measured to be over 15' deep in most parts of India and Pakistan.

Estimates are that Toba also emitted 10 to the 12th power kilograms of sulfuric acid into the atmosphere.

The result was pretty dramatic. A 6 year global winter. And a major genetic bottleneck as temperatures dropped 5 degrees C, on average, accelerating an ice age that was just getting started.

Geneticists estimate that most hominid lines died out at that point and that the population of homo sapiens (i.e. us) was reduced to fewer than 2,000 in east Africa and less than 10,000 worldwide.

This was not the first eruption known at Toba. An earlier one 788,000 years ago also spread magma and ash thousands of kilometers.

Merapi is in the same system as Toba. It and its neighbors have a nasty habit of occasional massive eruptions that have a worldwide impact (although not usually as huge as Toba's). Doesn't mean it will happen soon, but it's definitely not out of the range of possibility.

[end-geekness LOL]

Posted by lotp 2006-04-29 21:07|| 2006-04-29 21:07|| Front Page Top

#23 so....you're saying I should be for higher CAFE standards to abet the Volcano-God?

Posted by Frank G">Frank G 2006-04-29 21:22|| 2006-04-29 21:22|| Front Page Top

#24 I kind of like the Gore -> volcano as sacrifice move, myself.

Posted by lotp 2006-04-29 21:36|| 2006-04-29 21:36|| Front Page Top

#25 It's ok -- I've stocked up on dust masks, and there are always robins and sparrows to eat. ;-)

Posted by trailing wife 2006-04-29 22:49|| 2006-04-29 22:49|| Front Page Top

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