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2006-04-11 China-Japan-Koreas

Pinpointing the reasons that lead to the decline of China's military innovation in modern times

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Posted by gromky 2006-04-11 04:36|| || Front Page|| [5 views since 2007-05-07] Top

#1 The traditional thinking of China features strong philosophical theory and high fuzziness

This translates to - As long as they stick with the Chinese language they are f&&&ed. I don't speak Chinese but everyone else in my household does.

Posted by phil_b">phil_b 2006-04-11 06:39|| http://autonomousoperation.blogspot.com/]">[http://autonomousoperation.blogspot.com/] 2006-04-11 06:39|| Front Page Top

#2 Whats fascinating is the paths China and Japan took towards the latter half of the 19th century. The Japanese looked at the European powers and concluded it was the technology which gave them their global position. They sent out teams to various nations to copy good practices. The ruling clan adopted the French army model, soon switching over to the German after the Franco-Prussian War. Always go with a winner. The competing clan adopted the British Navy model. [The clan rivalry would permeate relations between the two services through the end of WWII]. All sorts of industrial practices were imported. They had seen the power and it was the guns and technology. That ability to adapt is still ingrained into the society today.

The Chinese, never willing to acknowledge that barbarians could ever be superior to the Devine Kingdom, observed and concluded that it was a failure of will. The culture, the state had been corrupted by not properly following the great traditions. They had seen the power and, for them, it was a failure of philosophy. Here we are nearly a hundred years plus from that period and as this posting show, there doesnt seem to be much of a change.

Posted by Cholutch Spolurt8948 2006-04-11 09:09|| 2006-04-11 09:09|| Front Page Top

#3 What's reassuring about this article is that the problems he enumerates are inherent in the China's political system. They can't fix them without becoming something other than what they are.

Posted by BH 2006-04-11 10:46|| 2006-04-11 10:46|| Front Page Top

#4 Interestingly, if you replace "China" with "Europe", and "16th century" with "Second World War", it still makes complete sense.

Posted by DoDo 2006-04-11 10:51|| 2006-04-11 10:51|| Front Page Top

#5 the Devine Kingdom

If only Andy were here today, he would be so proud.

[wanders off singing]

Born in Arizona, moved to Bejingonia ...

Posted by Zenster 2006-04-11 11:23|| 2006-04-11 11:23|| Front Page Top

#6 the politburo also has reasons for not wanting an all-powerful army as well. Better to reduce the numbers of unmarriageable men in any conflict than to lose sleep at night about disloyalty in a superior-armed military

Posted by Frank G">Frank G 2006-04-11 11:49|| 2006-04-11 11:49|| Front Page Top

#7 China for most of those 2000 years was neither a unified nation nor as large as today. There is little to no innovation becuz China's CCCC/CCP is still end-producer, end-consumer, and final arbiter in any and all things. 2015-2018 > both Russia and China adhere that war against the USA and ONLY THE USA is both possible and desired. Do not forget that both Russia and China's desire for superiority over the hyper-power+ USA circa 2030 -2050 can only be realistically achieved iff something occurs which effectively hinders, stalls, or degrades America's ability to compete -unless something detrimental happens to America, then in reality both nations can expect not to achieve de facto parity or superiority against AMerica until circa 2080-2100 at minima. When Leftperst and the MSM describe the alleged reforms and modernizations taking place in these nations, they are generally aluding to when both nations will be militarily strong enough to combat a weakened or stalled SOCIALIST America.

Posted by JosephMendiola 2006-04-11 23:26|| 2006-04-11 23:26|| Front Page Top

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