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2006-02-03 Home Front: WoT
Rummy offers new strategy on current war
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Posted by Dan Darling 2006-02-03 01:18|| || Front Page|| [1 views since 2007-05-07]  Top

#1 "The only way that terrorists can win this struggle is if we lose our will.."

A very distinct possibility. And we all know who are all working hard to bring this about.
Posted by Bomb-a-rama 2006-02-03 01:35||   2006-02-03 01:35|| Front Page Top

#2 As much as I admire Donald Rumsfeld, the notion that we are facing a group of irrengulars with no territory to defend is udder cow caca. These irregulars are well funded by nationals and nations -- most notably Saudi Arabia and Iran -- out of the enormous oil wealth on which they sit. The war would probably be a lot shorter if we declared war and seized the oil fields, and at least would give some hint of how strong the terrorist threat is without their strongest backers.
Posted by Perfesser 2006-02-03 09:43||   2006-02-03 09:43|| Front Page Top

#3 If we just took the oil, it would not reduce the number of Muslims substantially. Until we are willing to do so, either through the long term impoverishment the Perfesser proposes through stealing their oil, or nuclear annihilation we're still going to have a lot of terrs. I wouldn't mind either, but I'm not sure much of the country feels the same way. Yet.

A far more effective means to destroy the islamofascists is to enact an inflation adjusted oil import duty that assures that imported oil costs at least 50 US$ (2006).
Posted by Shoth Anginese3382 2006-02-03 09:56||   2006-02-03 09:56|| Front Page Top

#4 Perfesser:
The oil fields were discovered and developed by Anglo-American interests. Local sovereigns were recognized - and positioned - only as concession-holders. The koranimal cannot accept notions of sovereignty that is not prescribed in his fabricated "recitation" (quran) from his non-existent deity, which his dogma driven mind causes him to accept as the only authority. I believe that we should no longer accept their sovereignties, and effect possession and control over the oil patch. A typical Persian Gulf well is 15 times as productive, on a daily basis, as those in California and Texas. They are ours to take. And they are held by wild animals with global-imperial ambitions. They want us; ergo we slaughter them first. I detect a pretext in the above. Let's Roll!
Posted by CaziFarkus 2006-02-03 10:10||   2006-02-03 10:10|| Front Page Top

#5 SA:
How about this: we make them do our killing for us.

Rummy:
If "liberty" itself is at sake, then why fight a long war in its defense when we don't have to? Impose perceivable futility on this enemy - and the human costs wouldn't be that large to do that - and their will to make war will collapse. Islamofascists need to fear abject defeat.
Posted by CaziFarkus 2006-02-03 10:26||   2006-02-03 10:26|| Front Page Top

#6 If "liberty" itself is at sake, then why fight a long war in its defense when we don't have to?

Because I for one want both to surivive this conflict and to come out of it with my soul and our culture as intact as we can manage.

You talk a bit swagger, CZ. I'm glad you're not in any position to affect decisions.
Posted by lotp 2006-02-03 11:08||   2006-02-03 11:08|| Front Page Top

#7 lotp:
You sound canonical. What stops you from believing that the Muslim script - Quran mandate - reveals a global-genocidal threat to Western Civilization?
Posted by CaziFarkus 2006-02-03 14:25||   2006-02-03 14:25|| Front Page Top

#8 Who the hell said that the Quran didn't?
Posted by Whumble Whater5278 2006-02-03 17:27||   2006-02-03 17:27|| Front Page Top

#9 Over/Under is 19 Posts.
Usual rulz, no DU money.
Posted by 6 2006-02-03 17:40||   2006-02-03 17:40|| Front Page Top

#10 
"Because I for one want both to surivive this conflict and to come out of it with my soul and our culture as intact as we can manage."

That's an admirable sentiment, however, it does not appear that it is realistic, or even likely to go that way.

So why prolong the agony for us and the fantasy for them? A savage assault that reduces the worldwide Muslim population by 30-50%, combined with multi-generational sanctions and supervision would shatter their perceptions of superiority.

In the long run it will also save more lives. I can foresee a point at which we snap, and out of survival reflex we anhialate (sp?) the lot of them.

Best to take them to the woodshed now.

FS3190
Posted by Flaitle Snomong3190 2006-02-03 18:35||   2006-02-03 18:35|| Front Page Top

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