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2005-06-24 Afghanistan/South Asia

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Posted by Fred 2005-06-24 00:00|| || Front Page|| [2 views since 2007-05-07] Top

#1 Did any of the assailants have unsuitably young offspring, I wonder?

Posted by trailing wife 2005-06-24 01:43|| 2005-06-24 01:43|| Front Page Top

#2 Shaikhul Hadis, so he was in charge of interperating the Hadiths of the Prophet and therefor telling the rubes how to live their lives down to the most minute and petty detail. It's holy men like him who provide religous legitimacy for the Jihadi outfits.

So he was a department head at Jamia Binori, the center of Deobandi Islam; which educated Abdullah Mehsud and the leadership of Jaish-e-Mohammad, Harkut ul Jihad Islami, Sipah-e-Sahaba and the Taliban. The fact the one of Binori's chief holy men got wacked probably deserves more attention that it will get.

Posted by Paul Moloney 2005-06-24 01:46|| 2005-06-24 01:46|| Front Page Top

#3 Looks like the Mufti's friend was another holy man, and was also killed. The Motorcycles of Doom strike again.

http://www.abc.net.au/ra/news/stories/s1399806.htm
Two Pakistani Muslim clerics have been killed in a drive-by shooting in the southern city of Karachi. The two Sunni clerics, Mufti Atiq-ur-Rehman and Mufti Irshad, were returning from a mosque on Thursday night when men riding a motorcycle opened fire on their vehicle. They died instantly. Irshad's son also suffered serious injuries.

The clerics were believed to be close associates of Mufti Nizamuddin Shamzai, a leading Sunni Muslim who was gunned down in the city last year.

Posted by Paul Moloney 2005-06-24 01:57|| 2005-06-24 01:57|| Front Page Top

#4 isn't Mufti Atiqur Rahman the asshat that used to walk around with that nasty-green looken fez?

Posted by Red Dog 2005-06-24 02:13|| 2005-06-24 02:13|| Front Page Top

#5 I don't think so, I have never seen a picture or even heard of him before. The extremist Deobandi clerics tend to keep a low profile, and have little involvement in politics. They tend to be more concerned with doctrinal matters (and Jihad) rather than temporal matters.

It's the Islamist Politicians who make all the noise and get all the camera time.

Posted by Paul Moloney 2005-06-24 03:31|| 2005-06-24 03:31|| Front Page Top

#6 I consider it a good sign that somebody's cheesed enough to wipe out leading lights of Jamia Binori. I wonder if it's a religious discussion, or Perv, or us?

Posted by Fred 2005-06-24 06:06|| 2005-06-24 06:06|| Front Page Top

#7 thats what I was wondering - first thought was Shia, second Pervs folks (which means ISI, or does he have a more loyal secret service?) I really doubt it would be us - if we're that deep into the details of Karachi society, Id be very surprised. I presume we are thin on the ground in Pakland, due not only to the need to be absolutely "not there" but to CIAs general shortage of good assets, and that what we've got is off in the frontier regions looking for senior AQ.

Of course IF senior AQ is actually in Karachi, and this guy is close to them, that would be something else.

Posted by liberalhawk 2005-06-24 08:47|| 2005-06-24 08:47|| Front Page Top

#8 Given the Mufti's job, he may have been bumped off in a dispute over doctrine. For example he may have said,

"Mohammud's countenance was quite similar to an angel"

and someone who thought he should have said,

"Mohammud's countenance was very similar to an angel"

might have gotten ticked off.

Posted by mhw 2005-06-24 09:07|| 2005-06-24 09:07|| Front Page Top

#9 If you look at these kind of killings, they seem like something of a broken record. A few dozen Shias get massacred, then a Deobandi bigwig gets capped, then things relatively quiet down for a while before it starts again.

See Shamzai, Azam Tariq, the late Mufti Atiq ur Rahman and numerous other turbans. The sheer repetiveness of it is one of the reasons that many Shias and Sunnis blame America/India/the Jews for the sectarian conflict; and it may well be that other forces are at play, but nothing ever comes out.

So, Iran? America? Perv? High ranking Shias within the Pak establishment? Someone looking to keep the sectarian pot boiling?

Posted by Paul Moloney 2005-06-24 09:46|| 2005-06-24 09:46|| Front Page Top

#10

???? HOLY MAN ????

Posted by BigEd 2005-06-24 10:39|| 2005-06-24 10:39|| Front Page Top

#11 The real story is that he gave a pop quiz in class that day, and cheesed off the students.

Posted by Chuck Simmins">Chuck Simmins 2005-06-24 11:40|| http://blog.simmins.org]">[http://blog.simmins.org] 2005-06-24 11:40|| Front Page Top

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