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2005-06-10 Home Front: WoT

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Posted by Fred 2005-06-10 00:00|| || Front Page|| [5 views since 2007-05-07] Top

#1 Should it?

Posted by Ometh Phoque9082 2005-06-10 02:58|| 2005-06-10 02:58|| Front Page Top

#2 Yes.

BTW, have you read it?

Remember the anguished wails and Deaniac screams and wild-eyed moronic claims and vicious demonification of Bush & AshCroft regards The Patriot Act? I do. The MSM eagerly assisted in the birth of the abuse and terrible loss of freedoms meme the Act would entail, etc. Note that none of the dire black-helicopter crowd's predictions have materialized. Not One. It was TFBS*.

"Lisa Graves, the ACLU's senior counsel for legislative strategy, said the lack of a documented case of abuse did not mean the law does not violate civil liberties."

Lol. Moonbat Chicken Little has been discredited, methinks, but then I've actually read it and the analysis of it and its impact by those who aren't drinking the Kool Aid. It's a fair start, given the political circus.

It attempts to eliminate some of the truly inane politically-motivated stupidity of people like Jamie Gorelick, CAIR, and the fucking ACLU. It allows investigators (cops) and intelligence (spooks) to cooperate - that means talk to each other (massive DUH). It allows the coppers to request warrants on documented suspicion, i.e. lowered evidence threshold, without proving, in advance, what they need the warrants to obtain: courtroom-quality proof (this is an ACLU specialty - demand proof to get a warrant, which you wouldn't need if you had such proof in hand; massive DUH). It recognizes the advent of those computer thingys and that they can talk to each other through the Internet thingy - which must now be monitored since the terrs have even figured it out (/. [slashdot] twinks have group-symp heart attack! massive DUH). It incorporates already existing RICO procedures (RICO's a big hit with MSM cuz they love to see Mafia BigShots fall; but include Johnny Jihad, Professor Paleo, or Abdullwit Bombtool and they Phreak!) where they are applicable to terrorism (i.e. money tracking and laundering, foreign and domestic interagency cooperation, etc.; ear-shattering DUH).

In essence, it is the politically-palatable subset, and that's actually a damned small set, of common sense applied to terrorism.

We are still hamstrung in many ways, unable to do what your common sense would demand of you if it was your job to protect America - much of it thoughtless knee-jerk PCism / "activism" - profiling being the most obvious with illegal immigration running a close second.

The Moonbats create memes and are never held to account for the reality that plays out: the memes are *Total Fucking BullShit.

The Patriot Act has actually harmed no innocents and it has actually helped round up asshats. So the answer is yes.

Posted by .com 2005-06-10 05:12|| 2005-06-10 05:12|| Front Page Top

#3 It incorporates already existing RICO procedures (RICO's a big hit with MSM cuz they love to see Mafia BigShots fall; but include Johnny Jihad, Professor Paleo, or Abdullwit Bombtool and they Phreak!) where they are applicable to terrorism (i.e. money tracking and laundering, foreign and domestic interagency cooperation, etc.; ear-shattering DUH).

RICO can and should be applied to the United Nations

Posted by badanov 2005-06-10 07:34|| http://www.freefirezone.org]">[http://www.freefirezone.org] 2005-06-10 07:34|| Front Page Top

#4 Thank you, Lisa Graves. That reinforces a lot of my opinions of the ACLU. Appreciate you bringing your own rope...

Posted by tu3031 2005-06-10 08:09|| 2005-06-10 08:09|| Front Page Top

#5 What's amusing is that the most invasive procedure "Sneak and Peek" in the Patriot Act was put in by a Democrat and not a Republican. I say let it roll, if they get out of hand we can chnage it.

Posted by Cyber Sarge">Cyber Sarge 2005-06-10 11:01|| 2005-06-10 11:01|| Front Page Top

#6 RICO's a big hit with MSM cuz they love to see Mafia BigShots fall; but include Johnny Jihad, Professor Paleo, or Abdullwit Bombtool and they Phreak!

RICO's been applied to more than just mafioso...

Posted by Pappy 2005-06-10 11:35|| 2005-06-10 11:35|| Front Page Top

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