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2005-04-20 Afghanistan/South Asia
Terrorism must be confronted with force: Perv
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Posted by Fred 2005-04-20 00:00:00 AM|| || Front Page|| [1 views since 2007-05-07]  Top

#1 I know you guys like to bag Musharraf but from my perspective he's doing a reasonable job in challenging circumstances.
Posted by phil_b 2005-04-20 7:12:38 AM||   2005-04-20 7:12:38 AM|| Front Page Top

#2 except when it comes to being democratic. He is not quite cutting the mustard, there.

Before you say it, yes he would probably lose any serious election and RoP extremists would rule the country within the year. Then we could bomb the Paks back to stone throwing, or dust the place and start over (hydrogen bombs are good for this).

They need to make the choice of going one way or the other on their own . . . sink or swim.
Posted by Jame Retief  2005-04-20 7:42:42 AM||   2005-04-20 7:42:42 AM|| Front Page Top

#3 JF, so we need Musharraf to be more democratic so we produce a situation where we can nuke them. There is no sign of you being ironic, so I have to conclude that you are one of the nuke-em-all nuts.

Read the article carefully, he is saying the right things and also claiming to do them.
Posted by phil_b 2005-04-20 7:51:30 AM||   2005-04-20 7:51:30 AM|| Front Page Top

#4 Phil is correct. And in any case, we will leave the Paks to the Indians if it comes to that, we'll take the Iranians and the Israelis get the Syrians and Turks if they want it. But it won't come to that and part of that is Perv's tightrope walk that pleases no one but keeps the peace and him alive. Think about Pakland after a successful asassination.
Posted by Mrs. Davis 2005-04-20 7:56:05 AM||   2005-04-20 7:56:05 AM|| Front Page Top

#5 The Islamists achieved their best ever electoral performance at the last elections in Pakistan: 11%

This was after all the major Islamist political parties representing the hostile sects within Sunni and Shia Islam were convinced to put aside their differences and form and alliance, one that is virtually defunct since Qazi and Fazl want to rule the show.
Posted by Paul Moloney 2005-04-20 9:23:10 AM||   2005-04-20 9:23:10 AM|| Front Page Top

#6 I doubt the ISI would wait for the next election if Perv were removed from the scene. Thereafter the Islamists would receive 99.86% in all polls.
Posted by Mrs. Davis 2005-04-20 10:01:24 AM||   2005-04-20 10:01:24 AM|| Front Page Top

#7 President Musharraf also called on Muslim and Western nations to do more to rid the world of terrorism, urging them to eliminate problems such as poverty to keep Muslims off a radical path, but recommending force to crush those already sowing terror.

I am sooooo sick of the "poverty is the cause of terrorism" schtick. Look, there's more than enough money to go around over there if the gov't cronies just quit hogging it. The ME is sitting on top of the biggest black gold mine there is, and yet, there's extreme poverty and somehow it's our (the West's) fault? Give me a break. And somehow, I don't think AQ, binny, KSM, Mullah Omar, etc (top terrorists) were worried about money....it's the ideaology, stupid!
Posted by BA  2005-04-20 10:02:41 AM||   2005-04-20 10:02:41 AM|| Front Page Top

#8 The first condition to remove poverty is getting rid of a religion who, betwen other things, forces people to stop working five times a day in order to proclaim that their prophet is the greatest, forces people to spend most of their hard earned money in making the Saudis richer (aka as the Hadj business) instead of investing it in productive activity, who sets schools where youngsters learn nothing marketable, only hate and being able to recite the Holy Book from memory (even when they don't understand a word of it because they don't speak Arabic) thus creating a culture with a strong emphasis on mechanic memorization instead of creative thinking. When they get rid of a religion who has been the cause for the whole Arab world having translated less books in ONE THOUSAND years than Spain in a SINGLE year, a religion who tries hard for reducing women to animal-like ignorance thus not only depriving their countries of the women's workforce but also impacting negatively on the intellectual development of their offspring (remember the part about the crucial first four years ie when the baby is primarily cared by his mother? his crass ignorant mother in hard-line muslim countries?).

When investors will say "Pakistan is full of intelligent, educated, hardworking people" instead of "Pakistan is full of fanatics looking for a fight and who dream of becoming rich not through work but through war and looting(1)" then and only then will be the poverty eardiacted in Pakistan.

(1) cf politicians who promise Indian slaves to each pakistani after India's conquest
Posted by JFM  2005-04-20 11:05:21 AM||   2005-04-20 11:05:21 AM|| Front Page Top

#9 His comments remind me of something I've heard before. Yeah, that's the ticket.

"When criminals in this world appear
and frighten all who see or hear
The cry goes up both far and near for Underdog
Underdog."
Posted by Tornado 2005-04-20 7:31:40 PM||   2005-04-20 7:31:40 PM|| Front Page Top

#10 My bad.

"When criminals in this world appear
and break the law that they should fear
and frighten all who see or hear
The cry goes up both far and near for Underdog
Underdog."
Posted by Tornado 2005-04-20 7:33:27 PM||   2005-04-20 7:33:27 PM|| Front Page Top

#11 LOL! Impressive Tornado.
Posted by Shipman 2005-04-20 7:43:22 PM||   2005-04-20 7:43:22 PM|| Front Page Top

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