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2005-01-15 Afghanistan/South Asia

Afghans say Taliban fighters could surrender

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Posted by Fred 2005-01-15 1:30:25 PM|| || Front Page|| [1 views since 2007-05-07] Top

#1 "The government is talking to them through tribal leaders and we are demanding Khalilzad use his influence and propose to the American military not to detain or harass those Taliban who plan to stop fighting the government," Wafa said.

The insanity is a way of life for those who would call themselves followers of the Taliban, so it will never be more than taqiyya for dummies. Based upon experience and observation, I'd say they will have to continue dying until there are no more. Amnesties and good intentions are usually repaid with deadly perfidy. Sorry there, Wafa, I know you mean ~~to spout political bullshit~~ well.

Posted by .com 2005-01-15 2:20:10 PM|| 2005-01-15 2:20:10 PM|| Front Page Top

#2 .com: Amnesties and good intentions are usually repaid with deadly perfidy.

Not always. It depends on the number of true-blue holy warriors vs those who were along for the ride. Accepting surrenders is nothing new - many territories and leaders throughout history have surrendered and served their new political masters without complaint unless they were specifically mistreated. This is one of those trust but verify situations, where their surrenders must be accepted only if they include good faith gestures such as information about other guerrillas, weapons caches and funding sources.

Posted by Zhang Fei 2005-01-15 2:49:30 PM|| [http://timurileng.blogspot.com] 2005-01-15 2:49:30 PM|| Front Page Top

#3 Hmmmm, I'll accept a miniscule measure of that logic, thanks. Along for the ride is a very interesting way of putting it, heh.

The unacceptable part, of course, is that you do not know if the good faith gesture will be repaid in kind until it's too late. Sorry, but a good Afghan soldier or a NATO soldier (presumption: good) is worth more than the whole lot that would follow the Taliban, especially if taking up arms in their cause, IMHO. No lower or more insane and barbaric organization has ever existed on the face of this planet, IMHO, so I have no regard for them, their lives, or their proffered "plans" - which is a load of shit until it becomes reality, no?

Just my reasoning behind the first comment. ;-)

Posted by .com 2005-01-15 3:05:55 PM|| 2005-01-15 3:05:55 PM|| Front Page Top

#4 .com: Along for the ride is a very interesting way of putting it, heh.

Not everyone's a true-blue holy warrior. Getting on the bandwagon is something with an ancient history - the idea is to go with a winner, which some of these people thought, wrongly, would be the Taliban. They believed their own propaganda - and the Western media, which held that Uncle Sam would run at even the hint of deaths in combat. Now that they've taken their licks, they're no longer as convinced of their invincibility. If they can be re-integrated into the community, it's best for the Afghan military and our boys if they hand in their weapons - the fewer enemies we have to fight, the less of our people will have to die.

Posted by Zhang Fei 2005-01-15 7:11:27 PM|| [http://timurileng.blogspot.com] 2005-01-15 7:11:27 PM|| Front Page Top

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