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2005-01-08 China-Japan-Koreas

Fukuyama: Build New Asian Alliance System-- Make Five-Power Forum Permanent

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Posted by lex 2005-01-08 9:58:10 PM|| || Front Page|| [5 views since 2007-05-07] Top

#1 heh...funny how it happens. One day we are all looking east, and then we swing our heads around and start looking west.

I always believed that we would form an uneasy alliance with Russia and China. The Islamists are as much a threat to them as they are to us. And with NOKORs drooling wacko - the new alliance was inevitable.

Posted by 2b 2005-01-08 7:50:22 AM|| 2005-01-08 7:50:22 AM|| Front Page Top

#2 That's a good group for Korea but in general I'd rather India than Russia. Russia is too European and in decline. The Chinese are going to take their eastern lands. Let's stay out of it.

Posted by Mrs. Davis 2005-01-08 9:05:00 AM|| 2005-01-08 9:05:00 AM|| Front Page Top

#3 The islamist threat is a passing phenomenon whose importance for us (but not for Europe) will steadily diminish over the next 3-5 years. Asia's rise to global pre-eminence is here to stay, and far more important to us.

At some point in his second term Bush will have to shift focus from the middle east to China-Japan-Korea. And also figure out how to fit India into the mix.

Posted by lex 2005-01-08 9:19:47 AM|| 2005-01-08 9:19:47 AM|| Front Page Top

#4 Russia's importance is as a replacement for arab and persian oil, period. Which is hugely important to China and India.

Posted by lex 2005-01-08 9:21:16 AM|| 2005-01-08 9:21:16 AM|| Front Page Top

#5 "The islamist threat is a passing phenomenon whose importance for us (but not for Europe) will steadily diminish over the next 3-5 years."

Wow. Do you really think it will pass that quickly? I'm not arguing it can't; but for me the question has been, will my grandchildren be the last to have to fight in this war against Islamic totalitarianism-- or will it be my great-grandchildren?

As I see it, this war has been going on since at least as far back as November 4, 1979; the Islamoloonies have been in a state of war with us ever since then, but we chose to ignore them until 9/11. Myself, I suspect this will be going on a lot longer than 3-5 years.

Just my opinion...

Posted by Dave D. 2005-01-08 9:35:26 AM|| 2005-01-08 9:35:26 AM|| Front Page Top

#6 It will pass quickly for us. Iraq will cease to be our problem in another 18 months or so. Iran will not pass quickly but AQ and the other jihadists have already shifted their focus to Europe and SE Asia.

Posted by lex 2005-01-08 10:13:19 AM|| 2005-01-08 10:13:19 AM|| Front Page Top

#7 Iran would be much easier to handle if we had a united front with India and Russia. The Euros are at best ineffectual and at worst undermining the cause of containing Iran.

Posted by lex 2005-01-08 10:14:44 AM|| 2005-01-08 10:14:44 AM|| Front Page Top

#8 The big story is Asia. The anti-Iraq War conservatives are right in one sense-- and only one sense: the islamist menace is nothing compared to the Chinese threat. Which is complex and extremely difficult for this country to handle. As Fukuyama points out, the type of nation we find most difficult to handle is that which is neither completely an ally nor completely an enemy.

Posted by lex 2005-01-08 9:52:56 PM|| 2005-01-08 9:52:56 PM|| Front Page Top

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