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2004-12-28 Israel-Palestine
Abbas says abandon arms
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Posted by Fred 2004-12-28 00:00:00|| || Front Page|| [8 views since 2007-05-07]  Top

#1 Survey says, ding ding ding.
Posted by Ol_Dirty_American 2004-12-28 12:37:12 AM||   2004-12-28 12:37:12 AM|| Front Page Top

#2 What did he say in arabic?
Posted by Sock Puppet of Doom 2004-12-28 12:43:45 AM|| [http://www.slhess.com]  2004-12-28 12:43:45 AM|| Front Page Top

#3 Remember, Abbas believes that the Palestinians can peacefully outbreed the Israelis, in the end pushing them off the land by sheer force of numbers. Off the top of my head, Palestinian fertility is about 6 births/woman (down from 9) vs. 2.5 for Jewish Israelis and about 5 for Muslim Israelis. On the other hand, the Palestinian death rate appears fairly high,due to rule-by-thug and variously caused explosions and "lead poisoning", much higher than that of the Israelis these days. Also, Palestinian emigration of the most highly educated and those who desire to live more quietly, continues to be high. So I don't think Abbas is correct in his view of historical trends. On the other hand, there is some question -- in my mind at least -- how long he will live to push his position.

Popcorn, anyone?
Posted by  trailing wife 2004-12-28 1:59:19 AM||   2004-12-28 1:59:19 AM|| Front Page Top

#4 â€œI believe that it is clear that a military solution is impossible,” the Palestine Liberation Organisation (PLO) chairman told a gathering of business leaders in the West Bank town of Ramallah.

I don't buy this. If a military solution is impossible, then the logical alternative is to play for time in order to come up with a new plan. His only change has been method, and not objective, but I wouldn't mind being proven wrong.
Posted by Bomb-a-rama 2004-12-28 3:42:47 AM||   2004-12-28 3:42:47 AM|| Front Page Top

#5 trailing wife: "Abbas believes that the Palestinians can peacefully outbreed the Israelis"

As I recall, paleos seem to have a legacy of miscalculating.
Posted by PlanetDan  2004-12-28 8:16:21 AM||   2004-12-28 8:16:21 AM|| Front Page Top

#6 hmmmm - how long before an epidemic sweeps the overstuffed, underserved, unclean Paleo towns and camps? Guess whose fault it will be? Wait, that was too easy....
Posted by Frank G  2004-12-28 8:56:26 AM||   2004-12-28 8:56:26 AM|| Front Page Top

#7 Well, the suicide bombers have been abandoning their arms for a long time. Legs, heads too.
Posted by Capt America  2004-12-28 12:02:28 PM||   2004-12-28 12:02:28 PM|| Front Page Top

#8 Abbas says abandon arms

None of you get it, do you?

Abbas was addressing that comment to Israel.
Posted by Zenster 2004-12-28 3:07:32 PM||   2004-12-28 3:07:32 PM|| Front Page Top

#9 It's still the best message that could come out of Palestine. Would it have been better if the new frontrunner had said "we will continue our resistance, including violent resistance". Out of possible answers, this is better, not worse.
Posted by Jules 187 2004-12-28 4:16:07 PM||   2004-12-28 4:16:07 PM|| Front Page Top

#10 I am obliged to agree with you, Jules. Unfortunately, as SPoD said, "What did he say in arabic?"

The Palestinians have ZERO credibility and it will take a lot of unilateral demonstrations upon their part to convince anyone, except themselves of course, that they are once again worthy of trust. I welcome Abbas' pronouncements of peaceful intent, but his actions will have to speak for him instead.
Posted by Zenster 2004-12-28 5:02:01 PM||   2004-12-28 5:02:01 PM|| Front Page Top

#11 Yep.
Posted by Jules 187 2004-12-28 5:07:52 PM||   2004-12-28 5:07:52 PM|| Front Page Top

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