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2004-11-17 Home Front: Politix
Powell vs... Hillary!? (2006)
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Posted by someone 2004-11-17 3:00:43 AM|| || Front Page|| [2 views since 2007-05-07]  Top

#1 The Hildebeest won't run for reelection in '06. She'll spend the next two years grooming her moderate credentials than bail to devote herself to her '08 run.
Posted by AzCat 2004-11-17 3:47:21 AM||   2004-11-17 3:47:21 AM|| Front Page Top

#2 I read the headlines;

Powell Gets Plea To Run Against Clinton in 2006

‘You Could Sell Tickets,’ King Says

and thought he meant Don King! - now *there's* a fight, but I think Powell is too much of a gentleman to fight a lady.... ;)
Posted by Tony (UK)  2004-11-17 5:29:24 AM||   2004-11-17 5:29:24 AM|| Front Page Top

#3 T(UK): She's no lady!
Posted by Analog Roam 2004-11-17 9:54:03 AM||   2004-11-17 9:54:03 AM|| Front Page Top

#4 AzCat, she has to run and win in 2006, for a simple reason: she needs to prove that she can be re-elected, and (thus) that voters support her ideas and plans. That gives her the political heft and moxie to run for President. If she doesn't run, she risks being tagged as a one-term lightweight -- first by her fellow Democrats, then by the Repubs.
Posted by Steve White  2004-11-17 10:53:20 AM||   2004-11-17 10:53:20 AM|| Front Page Top

#5 Powell has never been in an actual election, I doubt he'll start now.
Posted by rjschwarz  2004-11-17 10:56:39 AM|| [http://politicaljunky.blogspot.com]  2004-11-17 10:56:39 AM|| Front Page Top

#6 I don't think Gen'l Powell wants to run for election . . . to any office. Remember 1996, when there was a movement to get him to run against Clinton? He turned it down.
Posted by Mike  2004-11-17 11:23:42 AM||   2004-11-17 11:23:42 AM|| Front Page Top

#7 I think Lucianne also has an article that she is running in '06.
Posted by anonymous2u 2004-11-17 11:51:49 AM||   2004-11-17 11:51:49 AM|| Front Page Top

#8 A lot of women like me would love to see a woman president, but question 1 shouldn't be whether the presidential candidate is a woman, but rather whether the presidential candidate has the right stuff. She doesn't.
Posted by Jules 187 2004-11-17 11:52:30 AM||   2004-11-17 11:52:30 AM|| Front Page Top

#9 I wish Powell a quiet retirement where he can do no more harm. For all his supposed "moderation" and "wisdom" and "charm", this a**hole

-- opposed intervening to halt fascist slaughter in the balkans as Head of the JCS in the 1990s

-- opposed intervening to halt fascist slaughter in Iraq as Sec State

-- pushed for and got the totally unnecessary and ultimately disastrous second UNSC resolution in early 2003

-- traveled less and achieved less than any SecState in recent memory

-- covered for his underperformance by smirking and winking to NYT and other reporters about his disagreements with his president.

Good riddance, Colin. You've disserved your country long enough.
Posted by lex 2004-11-17 12:08:23 PM||   2004-11-17 12:08:23 PM|| Front Page Top

#10 Good job Lex. Making your way nicely here.
Posted by Shipman 2004-11-17 6:00:57 PM||   2004-11-17 6:00:57 PM|| Front Page Top

#11 India! China! Russia is the next Karachi! No links for oil. Jeeezus.
Posted by Shipman 2004-11-17 6:05:38 PM||   2004-11-17 6:05:38 PM|| Front Page Top

#12 Shipman - Powell's the most overrated figure in US politics today. Anyone with his nose up the arse of Bob Woodward, who leaks to WaPo and the NYT as much as Powell did, is immediately suspect in my book.
Posted by lex 2004-11-17 6:19:51 PM||   2004-11-17 6:19:51 PM|| Front Page Top

#13 Powell vs. Rumsfeld: Rumsfeld's plan wins out (ie Rumsfeld thrashes him).

Powell vs. Dominque de Villepin: Frenchie publicly humiliates our Sec State before a global audience at the UN, sandbagging him and making the US look foolish.

Powell vs. Bush: Powell gets quoted more than all pther admin officials combined in Bob Woodward's book. Bush gets re-elected and forces Powell out.

Nice work, Colin.
Posted by lex 2004-11-17 6:27:17 PM||   2004-11-17 6:27:17 PM|| Front Page Top

#14 Steve - I disagree for a number of reasons, among them:

First and foremost the Clintons own and will likely continue to own the DNC. Hil gets the nod in '08 so long as that's true no matter what else happens between now and then. I don't see anyone defeating the DNC's annointed candidate.

Winning New York proves nothing. She needs to prove that she can win the south and midwest and she can't do that running for a Senate seat in NY. And however unlikely it might be, losing the NY seat would be a disaster. I just don't see a huge upside to a second run for her.
Posted by AzCat 2004-11-17 7:17:18 PM||   2004-11-17 7:17:18 PM|| Front Page Top

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